From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70868: 30.0.50; Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 18:06:10 +0300 Message-ID: <86ikzjysrh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <663fb841.050a0220.ffcbb.b84f@mx.google.com> <86jzk019u0.fsf@gnu.org> <86h6f419mi.fsf@gnu.org> <87v83jozi7.fsf@web.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15042"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com, 70868@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 12 17:07:29 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s6AnQ-0003iM-U0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 17:07:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s6An4-0003z6-8G; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s6An0-0003wx-Nm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s6An0-0006fM-F5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:07:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s6An0-0001n9-C1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 15:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 70868 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 70868-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B70868.17155263816878 (code B ref 70868); Sun, 12 May 2024 15:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70868) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2024 15:06:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54868 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s6AmL-0001ms-0U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:49302) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1s6AmI-0001ma-7M for 70868@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1s6AmC-0006ZP-F7; Sun, 12 May 2024 11:06:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=G2p8YW8m/ToY4TM357WW4antAphAa33lXhRf8jEObPE=; b=XOYq2N5VKjJD ewkkdGGWJY79ymxavG8PGjdds7S+Stn/LfvzIZVuGC5IuJsYpztQ3A2QNZ89SDA1oYvuDxLiI+dsq 3FCSAhLelOJSvh5n/N6n/7UBHUm3lMhhfR5ulFRHoic+lHcn/RnqyLl31P28Zjzwas3C8on5F8Z5I pe0AtN9fBx9ijlbQt5J0oTi3+oQ8Cp4q8oSohWKg7XUEVUpEOqvAMaFyGKZzQkOfaKMBo3xbHIgMO JIIFIWjKSTOigXsdQBw+sNIcDdReMZZLCyX8PClUW7wdtvsZ1xZuFfmZStQBEK9tk6g2jMpAf12+b 8Sb1f3HPxAgxaDMDGh6Ajw==; In-Reply-To: <87v83jozi7.fsf@web.de> (message from Michael Heerdegen on Sun, 12 May 2024 16:50:40 +0200) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:284924 Archived-At: > From: Michael Heerdegen > Cc: iarchivedmywholelife@gmail.com, 70868@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Sun, 12 May 2024 16:50:40 +0200 > > So, my opinion is that Elisp pretty printing with input expressions, in > contrast to text, is, if at all, only useful for automatically generated > expressions (like macro expansions). I think if we want a Lisp formatter that is free of these issues, we need to implement a bona-fide formatter, which reindents and reformats Lisp code without actually 'read'ing and interpreting it. > We should still fix this bug, obviously. If you are talking about the bug with 59, then Mattias suggested to exempt the semi-colon from the "display-small-numbers-as-characters" feature.