From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Including unconditionally in Emacs Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2024 09:46:00 +0300 Message-ID: <86ikykdj9z.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1906c20b-1c6a-4fce-9e55-9667b32ec8f4@cs.ucla.edu> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18975"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, Emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 08 08:46:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sFpqb-0004ks-Pb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 08:46:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFpq7-0008VJ-B5; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 02:46:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFpq5-0008Uc-Bv for Emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 02:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sFpq4-0007Xu-Fl; Sat, 08 Jun 2024 02:46:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=HV8W7sBJffnUMe9qUoV+3YertusJsnYqgrqgPD/bOvM=; b=kpHv+KwdW97l 2R+2t2sqUVeYL8KJ5Nl4GQwnxz7LgNXQnOXqmRvB8FkwiDeuwIeOariWcwNhGhZD7otlQFPSsgrui +EdV6hpDC98RONr91oyy8URe0Vg6F87xs0LoRa8BdeyGB2yLi5zpg90xxDqF3oTT7U3OzcLNhbJIm XR+EkqUlNXh/jsCDjczlF3f+NwXk3A1VPpltuke2d4behfqmvUp44nL0JmvcQaJHjlo6W3ynAn+RZ NJzMEx+ncHekP+Eu9SqyVD9DhKjLWH2+80xDbtfOh3MzkoBnLCyYKEVJNFt7Gpfe/dGxx7hVL75+q o3hPc9g1zOQe7MprzDsjFg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Richard Stallman on Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:54:09 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:319885 Archived-At: > From: Richard Stallman > Cc: Emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2024 22:54:09 -0400 > > But in general I have the feeling that there is a tendency in parts of > our community to drop support for old systems too fast. For instance, > Coreboot has dropped support for the last server board that doesn't > have the Intel Management Engine. You can still buy them, and that's > the model the FSF uses. > > So let's stay cautious about this. We are, at least in this project. Some say we are too cautious.