bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

Hello,

I've been failing to get Emacs to launch under Sway on Void Linux, the
configuration I'm using was working fine on Arch Linux (using the same
Emacs version). Note that `emacs -Q' also segfaults, but `emacs -nw' is
able to launch emacs with all of my configuration without a single
warning.

You can find the backtrace leading up to this error in this paste:

  https://paste.sr.ht/~grtcdr/c39dad4913262557228d1158680f52613b728c6a

I tracked the issue down to a cairo_surface_create_similar_image() call
that results in the crash.

Before the program crashes, a warning about the "xpm" image type not
being supported is shown which may be relevant:

  (emacs:8670): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: 13:38:44.606: Error loading XPM
  image loader: Image type “xpm” is not supported

In GNU Emacs 29.4 (build 2, x86_64-unknown-linux-musl, GTK+ Version
 3.24.43, cairo version 1.18.0) of 2024-10-13 built on
 void-buildbot-worker-musl
System Description: Void Linux

Configured using:
 'configure --with-pgtk --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
 --sbindir=/usr/bin --bindir=/usr/bin --mandir=/usr/share/man
 --infodir=/usr/share/info --localstatedir=/var
 --host=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl
 '--libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib64' --with-file-notification=inotify
 --with-modules --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png
 --with-webp --with-xpm --with-rsvg --without-imagemagick --with-xml2
 --with-gnutls --with-sound --with-m17n-flt --with-json --with-harfbuzz
 --with-cairo --with-libgmp --with-sqlite3 --with-tree-sitter
 --with-native-compilation=aot 'CFLAGS=-fno-PIE -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe
 -g -ffile-prefix-map=/builddir/emacs-29.4=.' 'CPPFLAGS= '
 'LDFLAGS=-no-pie -Wl,--as-needed ''

Configured features:
ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG
RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER
WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

Important settings:
  value of $LC_COLLATE: C
  value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8
  locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix

Major mode: ERC

Minor modes in effect:
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  indent-tabs-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
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Load-path shadows:
/home/grtcdr/.config/emacs/package/transient/lisp/transient hides /usr/share/emacs/29.4/lisp/transient
/home/grtcdr/.config/emacs/package/modus-themes/theme-loaddefs hides /usr/share/emacs/29.4/lisp/theme-loaddefs

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bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:42:39 +0100
> 
> I've been failing to get Emacs to launch under Sway on Void Linux, the
> configuration I'm using was working fine on Arch Linux (using the same
> Emacs version). Note that `emacs -Q' also segfaults, but `emacs -nw' is
> able to launch emacs with all of my configuration without a single
> warning.
> 
> You can find the backtrace leading up to this error in this paste:
> 
>   https://paste.sr.ht/~grtcdr/c39dad4913262557228d1158680f52613b728c6a
> 
> I tracked the issue down to a cairo_surface_create_similar_image() call
> that results in the crash.
> 
> Before the program crashes, a warning about the "xpm" image type not
> being supported is shown which may be relevant:
> 
>   (emacs:8670): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: 13:38:44.606: Error loading XPM
>   image loader: Image type “xpm” is not supported

Do you have the XPM library installed and available to Emacs?

Your build details indicate that Emacs was configured to be built with
XPM:

> Configured using:
>  'configure --with-pgtk --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
>  --sbindir=/usr/bin --bindir=/usr/bin --mandir=/usr/share/man
>  --infodir=/usr/share/info --localstatedir=/var
>  --host=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl
>  '--libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib64' --with-file-notification=inotify
>  --with-modules --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png
>  --with-webp --with-xpm --with-rsvg --without-imagemagick --with-xml2
               ^^^^^^^^^^
>  --with-gnutls --with-sound --with-m17n-flt --with-json --with-harfbuzz
>  --with-cairo --with-libgmp --with-sqlite3 --with-tree-sitter
>  --with-native-compilation=aot 'CFLAGS=-fno-PIE -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe
>  -g -ffile-prefix-map=/builddir/emacs-29.4=.' 'CPPFLAGS= '
>  'LDFLAGS=-no-pie -Wl,--as-needed ''

But the features actually available to Emacs don't include XPM:

> Configured features:
> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
> LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG
> RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER
> WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB

So I wonder how this happened.

Did you build Emacs yourself, or was it installed from some distro?

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

> Do you have the XPM library installed and available to Emacs?

Yes, the package manager indicates I have the necessary package
installed:

    ~ $ xbps-query -Rs xpm
    [*] libXpm-3.5.17_1       X PixMap Library from modular Xorg X11

> But the features actually available to Emacs don't include XPM:
>
> So I wonder how this happened.
>
> Did you build Emacs yourself, or was it installed from some distro?

I used the officially packaged Void Linux "emacs-pgtk" package. Do you
think this is a packaging issue?

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 19:01:06 +0100
> 
> > Do you have the XPM library installed and available to Emacs?
> 
> Yes, the package manager indicates I have the necessary package
> installed:
> 
>     ~ $ xbps-query -Rs xpm
>     [*] libXpm-3.5.17_1       X PixMap Library from modular Xorg X11

What does the below display (assuming it doesn't crash)?

  $ emacs -Q -batch --eval "(message \"%s\" (image-type-available-p 'xpm))"

> > But the features actually available to Emacs don't include XPM:
> >
> > So I wonder how this happened.
> >
> > Did you build Emacs yourself, or was it installed from some distro?
> 
> I used the officially packaged Void Linux "emacs-pgtk" package. Do you
> think this is a packaging issue?

Could be.  If the above command doesn't show "t", I would suggest to
take this up with the distro folks.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

> What does the below display (assuming it doesn't crash)?
>
>   $ emacs -Q -batch --eval "(message \"%s\" (image-type-available-p 'xpm))"

This returns "t", surprisingly.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 21:15:26 +0100
> 
> > What does the below display (assuming it doesn't crash)?
> >
> >   $ emacs -Q -batch --eval "(message \"%s\" (image-type-available-p 'xpm))"
> 
> This returns "t", surprisingly.

Then I don't understand the error message you cited in your OP.
Perhaps it means that the problem is with GTK, not with Emacs per se.

So I'd still suggest to take this up with the distro folks.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

> Then I don't understand the error message you cited in your OP.
> Perhaps it means that the problem is with GTK, not with Emacs per se.

That was also very confusing for me.

> So I'd still suggest to take this up with the distro folks.

I'll do that, thanks for your time :)

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:42:39 +0100
>> 
>> I've been failing to get Emacs to launch under Sway on Void Linux, the
>> configuration I'm using was working fine on Arch Linux (using the same
>> Emacs version). Note that `emacs -Q' also segfaults, but `emacs -nw' is
>> able to launch emacs with all of my configuration without a single
>> warning.
>> 
>> You can find the backtrace leading up to this error in this paste:
>> 
>>   https://paste.sr.ht/~grtcdr/c39dad4913262557228d1158680f52613b728c6a
>> 
>> I tracked the issue down to a cairo_surface_create_similar_image() call
>> that results in the crash.
>> 
>> Before the program crashes, a warning about the "xpm" image type not
>> being supported is shown which may be relevant:
>> 
>>   (emacs:8670): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: 13:38:44.606: Error loading XPM
>>   image loader: Image type “xpm” is not supported
>
> Do you have the XPM library installed and available to Emacs?
>
> Your build details indicate that Emacs was configured to be built with
> XPM:
>
>> Configured using:
>>  'configure --with-pgtk --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
>>  --sbindir=/usr/bin --bindir=/usr/bin --mandir=/usr/share/man
>>  --infodir=/usr/share/info --localstatedir=/var
>>  --host=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl
>>  '--libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib64' --with-file-notification=inotify
>>  --with-modules --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png
>>  --with-webp --with-xpm --with-rsvg --without-imagemagick --with-xml2
>                ^^^^^^^^^^
>>  --with-gnutls --with-sound --with-m17n-flt --with-json --with-harfbuzz
>>  --with-cairo --with-libgmp --with-sqlite3 --with-tree-sitter
>>  --with-native-compilation=aot 'CFLAGS=-fno-PIE -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe
>>  -g -ffile-prefix-map=/builddir/emacs-29.4=.' 'CPPFLAGS= '
>>  'LDFLAGS=-no-pie -Wl,--as-needed ''
>
> But the features actually available to Emacs don't include XPM:
>
>> Configured features:
>> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
>> LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG
>> RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER
>> WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB
>
> So I wonder how this happened.
>
> Did you build Emacs yourself, or was it installed from some distro?

The PGTK configuration always enables Emacs's built-in XPM library (in
image.c).

All the same, the OP's problem is that the gdk-pixbuf library invoked by
the toolkit to load tool-bar images no longer enables XPM support by
default, because, in their words, it was "not being used."  Someone must
volunteer to enable loading tool-bar images with Emacs's image system
instead.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>,  74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 08:12:39 +0800
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> >> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 13:42:39 +0100
> >> 
> >> I've been failing to get Emacs to launch under Sway on Void Linux, the
> >> configuration I'm using was working fine on Arch Linux (using the same
> >> Emacs version). Note that `emacs -Q' also segfaults, but `emacs -nw' is
> >> able to launch emacs with all of my configuration without a single
> >> warning.
> >> 
> >> You can find the backtrace leading up to this error in this paste:
> >> 
> >>   https://paste.sr.ht/~grtcdr/c39dad4913262557228d1158680f52613b728c6a
> >> 
> >> I tracked the issue down to a cairo_surface_create_similar_image() call
> >> that results in the crash.
> >> 
> >> Before the program crashes, a warning about the "xpm" image type not
> >> being supported is shown which may be relevant:
> >> 
> >>   (emacs:8670): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: 13:38:44.606: Error loading XPM
> >>   image loader: Image type “xpm” is not supported
> >
> > Do you have the XPM library installed and available to Emacs?
> >
> > Your build details indicate that Emacs was configured to be built with
> > XPM:
> >
> >> Configured using:
> >>  'configure --with-pgtk --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
> >>  --sbindir=/usr/bin --bindir=/usr/bin --mandir=/usr/share/man
> >>  --infodir=/usr/share/info --localstatedir=/var
> >>  --host=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl --build=x86_64-unknown-linux-musl
> >>  '--libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib64' --with-file-notification=inotify
> >>  --with-modules --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-gif --with-png
> >>  --with-webp --with-xpm --with-rsvg --without-imagemagick --with-xml2
> >                ^^^^^^^^^^
> >>  --with-gnutls --with-sound --with-m17n-flt --with-json --with-harfbuzz
> >>  --with-cairo --with-libgmp --with-sqlite3 --with-tree-sitter
> >>  --with-native-compilation=aot 'CFLAGS=-fno-PIE -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe
> >>  -g -ffile-prefix-map=/builddir/emacs-29.4=.' 'CPPFLAGS= '
> >>  'LDFLAGS=-no-pie -Wl,--as-needed ''
> >
> > But the features actually available to Emacs don't include XPM:
> >
> >> Configured features:
> >> ACL CAIRO DBUS FREETYPE GIF GLIB GMP GNUTLS GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ JPEG JSON
> >> LCMS2 LIBOTF LIBXML2 MODULES NATIVE_COMP NOTIFY INOTIFY PDUMPER PGTK PNG
> >> RSVG SECCOMP SOUND SQLITE3 THREADS TIFF TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS TREE_SITTER
> >> WEBP XIM GTK3 ZLIB
> >
> > So I wonder how this happened.
> >
> > Did you build Emacs yourself, or was it installed from some distro?
> 
> The PGTK configuration always enables Emacs's built-in XPM library (in
> image.c).
> 
> All the same, the OP's problem is that the gdk-pixbuf library invoked by
> the toolkit to load tool-bar images no longer enables XPM support by
> default, because, in their words, it was "not being used."  Someone must
> volunteer to enable loading tool-bar images with Emacs's image system
> instead.

Which GTK versions dropped XPM support?  We should probably reject
those versions at configure time, if they lead to Emacs that crashes
on startup.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Which GTK versions dropped XPM support?

I don't know.  I only learned of this fact this morning myself.

> We should probably reject those versions at configure time, if they
> lead to Emacs that crashes on startup.

It's not GTK that has deprecated XPM support, but a library it invokes
to load image files.  From what I've heard, it remains possible to
configure the library with XPM support.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Which GTK versions dropped XPM support?
>
> I don't know.  I only learned of this fact this morning myself.
>
>> We should probably reject those versions at configure time, if they
>> lead to Emacs that crashes on startup.
>
> It's not GTK that has deprecated XPM support, but a library it invokes
> to load image files.  From what I've heard, it remains possible to
> configure the library with XPM support.

Is it possible to gracefully crash or disable toolbar support when XPM
support is disabled?

There's gdk_pixbuf_format_is_disabled to check if a format is disabled.[1]

[1] https://docs.gtk.org/gdk-pixbuf/method.PixbufFormat.is_disabled.html

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text
editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> Which GTK versions dropped XPM support?
>
> I don't know.  I only learned of this fact this morning myself.
>
>> We should probably reject those versions at configure time, if they
>> lead to Emacs that crashes on startup.
>
> It's not GTK that has deprecated XPM support, but a library it invokes
> to load image files.  From what I've heard, it remains possible to
> configure the library with XPM support.

Is it possible to gracefully crash or disable toolbar support when XPM
support is disabled?

There's gdk_pixbuf_format_is_disabled to check if a format is disabled.[1]

[1] https://docs.gtk.org/gdk-pixbuf/method.PixbufFormat.is_disabled.html

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

> All the same, the OP's problem is that the gdk-pixbuf library invoked by
> the toolkit to load tool-bar images no longer enables XPM support by
> default, because, in their words, it was "not being used."  Someone must
> volunteer to enable loading tool-bar images with Emacs's image system
> instead.

I should have probably mentioned that my early initialization file
disables the toolbar along with other visual elements, so it's odd that
these images would get created at all.

I assume they're created eagerly so it makes no difference whether or
not the toolbar is disabled.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:40:57 +0100
> 
> > All the same, the OP's problem is that the gdk-pixbuf library invoked by
> > the toolkit to load tool-bar images no longer enables XPM support by
> > default, because, in their words, it was "not being used."  Someone must
> > volunteer to enable loading tool-bar images with Emacs's image system
> > instead.
> 
> I should have probably mentioned that my early initialization file
> disables the toolbar along with other visual elements, so it's odd that
> these images would get created at all.
> 
> I assume they're created eagerly so it makes no difference whether or
> not the toolbar is disabled.

Maybe you should disable it in your ~/.emacs.d/gtkrc?  Or is that
~/.themes/THEME/gtk-3.0/gtk.css now?

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 12:40:57 +0100
>> 
>> > All the same, the OP's problem is that the gdk-pixbuf library invoked by
>> > the toolkit to load tool-bar images no longer enables XPM support by
>> > default, because, in their words, it was "not being used."  Someone must
>> > volunteer to enable loading tool-bar images with Emacs's image system
>> > instead.
>> 
>> I should have probably mentioned that my early initialization file
>> disables the toolbar along with other visual elements, so it's odd that
>> these images would get created at all.
>> 
>> I assume they're created eagerly so it makes no difference whether or
>> not the toolbar is disabled.
>
> Maybe you should disable it in your ~/.emacs.d/gtkrc?  Or is that
> ~/.themes/THEME/gtk-3.0/gtk.css now?

I'm not sure what to put there. The manual entry [1] for GTK styling
links to a dead resource [2] concerning the GTK styling options. I
suppose it means to reference this page
<https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/css-overview.html>

Still, that page doesn't say anything about toolbars.

I found this answer [3] which uses "gsettings" and as far as I know,
settings changed through gsettings do not affect Emacs, so I have to
create a stylesheet just as the manual says.

Any pointers?

[1]: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/GTK-resources.html
[2]: https://developer-old.gnome.org/gtk3/3.0/GtkCssProvider.html
[3]: https://askubuntu.com/a/359049

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:23:43 +0100
> 
> I found this answer [3] which uses "gsettings" and as far as I know,
> settings changed through gsettings do not affect Emacs, so I have to
> create a stylesheet just as the manual says.
> 
> Any pointers?

See src/xsettings.c, I hope this is relevant to your case (but I know
nothing about GTK, so apologies if this makes no sense).

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
>> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 13:23:43 +0100
>> 
>> I found this answer [3] which uses "gsettings" and as far as I know,
>> settings changed through gsettings do not affect Emacs, so I have to
>> create a stylesheet just as the manual says.
>> 
>> Any pointers?
>
> See src/xsettings.c, I hope this is relevant to your case (but I know
> nothing about GTK, so apologies if this makes no sense).

It's very relevant and the source code is actually really insightful.

Line 219:

   #ifdef HAVE_GSETTINGS
   #define GSETTINGS_SCHEMA         "org.gnome.desktop.interface"
   #define GSETTINGS_TOOL_BAR_STYLE "toolbar-style"

Well, according to `system-configuration-features', gsettings is configured:

"ACL ... GSETTINGS HARFBUZZ ..."

So GSETTINGS is indeed considered, let's see the value of my setting
outside of Emacs:

   $ gsettings get org.gnome.desktop.interface toolbar-style
   => 'text'

According to https://docs.gtk.org/gtk3/enum.ToolbarStyle.html, the
"text" style corresponds to the value "1".

Line 1080-1088:

    val = g_settings_get_value (gsettings_client, GSETTINGS_TOOL_BAR_STYLE);
      if (val)
        {
          g_variant_ref_sink (val);
          if (g_variant_is_of_type (val, G_VARIANT_TYPE_STRING))
            current_tool_bar_style
              = map_tool_bar_style (g_variant_get_string (val, NULL));
          g_variant_unref (val);
        }

Okay, but `(tool-bar-get-system-style)' actually returns "image"... huh?

Docstring says "image" is the fallback return value... Why is the
mapping not being handled correctly?

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

> Docstring says "image" is the fallback return value... Why is the
> mapping not being handled correctly?

I added the following bit of configuration to the top of my
early-init.el and it also made no difference.

  (setq tool-bar-style "text")

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:15:43 +0100
> 
> > Docstring says "image" is the fallback return value... Why is the
> > mapping not being handled correctly?
> 
> I added the following bit of configuration to the top of my
> early-init.el and it also made no difference.
> 
>   (setq tool-bar-style "text")

I hope Po Lu will be able to help you out.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:15:43 +0100
> 
> > Docstring says "image" is the fallback return value... Why is the
> > mapping not being handled correctly?
> 
> I added the following bit of configuration to the top of my
> early-init.el and it also made no difference.
> 
>   (setq tool-bar-style "text")

Just by looking at the code, it looks like the value of tool-bar-style
is supposed to be a symbol, not a string.  So try this instead:

  (setq tool-bar-style 'text)

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
>> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 14:15:43 +0100
>> 
>> > Docstring says "image" is the fallback return value... Why is the
>> > mapping not being handled correctly?
>> 
>> I added the following bit of configuration to the top of my
>> early-init.el and it also made no difference.
>> 
>>   (setq tool-bar-style "text")

> Just by looking at the code, it looks like the value of tool-bar-style
> is supposed to be a symbol, not a string.  So try this instead:
>
>   (setq tool-bar-style 'text)

Yeah, I should have paid closer attention to the `EQ' there. I've
changed it now.

Unfortunately, Emacs is still crashing even with the correct symbol
value set as the very first line in early-init.el.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Taha Aziz Ben Ali]

I don't know how to say this but... the issue resolved itself (?).

I did a lot of tweaking today and installed a whole lot of stuff as I've
only settled into this distribution, so perhaps some essential library
(?) was installed and Emacs got all happy and started just fine.

I've tried removing some of the packages I installed to determine what
exactly caused Emacs to mysteriously work. Nothing yet. I don't think
I'll be able to find out either.

I appreciate everyone's time and especially all the effort to help me
out.

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:56 +0100
> 
> I don't know how to say this but... the issue resolved itself (?).
> 
> I did a lot of tweaking today and installed a whole lot of stuff as I've
> only settled into this distribution, so perhaps some essential library
> (?) was installed and Emacs got all happy and started just fine.
> 
> I've tried removing some of the packages I installed to determine what
> exactly caused Emacs to mysteriously work. Nothing yet. I don't think
> I'll be able to find out either.
> 
> I appreciate everyone's time and especially all the effort to help me
> out.

Thanks for telling us.

Po Lu, is there something here we should add to PROBLEMS, perhaps?

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

Ping!

> Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:40:42 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> > From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:56 +0100
> > 
> > I don't know how to say this but... the issue resolved itself (?).
> > 
> > I did a lot of tweaking today and installed a whole lot of stuff as I've
> > only settled into this distribution, so perhaps some essential library
> > (?) was installed and Emacs got all happy and started just fine.
> > 
> > I've tried removing some of the packages I installed to determine what
> > exactly caused Emacs to mysteriously work. Nothing yet. I don't think
> > I'll be able to find out either.
> > 
> > I appreciate everyone's time and especially all the effort to help me
> > out.
> 
> Thanks for telling us.
> 
> Po Lu, is there something here we should add to PROBLEMS, perhaps?
> 
> 
> 
> 

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

Ping! Ping!  Po Lu, please respond.

> Cc: ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:00:20 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> Ping!
> 
> > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:40:42 +0200
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > 
> > > From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> > > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:56 +0100
> > > 
> > > I don't know how to say this but... the issue resolved itself (?).
> > > 
> > > I did a lot of tweaking today and installed a whole lot of stuff as I've
> > > only settled into this distribution, so perhaps some essential library
> > > (?) was installed and Emacs got all happy and started just fine.
> > > 
> > > I've tried removing some of the packages I installed to determine what
> > > exactly caused Emacs to mysteriously work. Nothing yet. I don't think
> > > I'll be able to find out either.
> > > 
> > > I appreciate everyone's time and especially all the effort to help me
> > > out.
> > 
> > Thanks for telling us.
> > 
> > Po Lu, is there something here we should add to PROBLEMS, perhaps?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> 

bug#74383: 29.4; Emacs PGTK crashes on Void Linux

[Eli Zaretskii]

Ping! Ping! Ping! Po Lu, are you there?

> Cc: ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2024 11:37:00 +0200
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> 
> Ping! Ping!  Po Lu, please respond.
> 
> > Cc: ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 12:00:20 +0200
> > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > 
> > Ping!
> > 
> > > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 19:40:42 +0200
> > > From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > > 
> > > > From: Taha Aziz Ben Ali <ba.tahaaziz@gmail.com>
> > > > Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, 74383@debbugs.gnu.org
> > > > Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2024 18:34:56 +0100
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know how to say this but... the issue resolved itself (?).
> > > > 
> > > > I did a lot of tweaking today and installed a whole lot of stuff as I've
> > > > only settled into this distribution, so perhaps some essential library
> > > > (?) was installed and Emacs got all happy and started just fine.
> > > > 
> > > > I've tried removing some of the packages I installed to determine what
> > > > exactly caused Emacs to mysteriously work. Nothing yet. I don't think
> > > > I'll be able to find out either.
> > > > 
> > > > I appreciate everyone's time and especially all the effort to help me
> > > > out.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for telling us.
> > > 
> > > Po Lu, is there something here we should add to PROBLEMS, perhaps?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
>