From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Post-22.1 development?
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 15:47:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86hcplgpp6.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yoijodjtkz92.fsf@gamma02.me.chalmers.se> ("Johan Bockgård"'s message of "Wed\, 06 Jun 2007 15\:07\:21 +0200")
bojohan+news@dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) writes:
> Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes:
>
>> The major difference is removal of cl.el. So it might be desirable to
>> merge it into the branch. admin/FOR-RELEASE says
>>
>> ** viper and tramp should not load cl at run time.
>
> The change was unnecessarily drastic.
>
> However, there is no problem with using the `cl' package at
> compile time, with `(eval-when-compile (require 'cl))'. That's
> sufficient for using the macros in the `cl' package, because the
> compiler expands them before generating the byte-code.
>
> -- (info "(elisp)Coding Conventions")
>
> There were no problematic uses in tramp.el, AFAICT (after adding
> `eval-when-compile').
There were so many cases of a warning buffer popping up in many
versions of tramp that it seems pointless to keep cl in it unless it
is really hard to replace: getting this completely right just seems to
be fragile. After a few dozen failed attempts, "we _can_ do this
right" appears like asking for trouble.
--
David Kastrup
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Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-04 3:31 Post-22.1 development? Chong Yidong
2007-06-04 6:59 ` Release announcement [was Re: Post-22.1 development?] Glenn Morris
2007-06-04 8:44 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-04 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 9:11 ` Yavor Doganov
2007-06-04 8:58 ` Post-22.1 development? Andreas Schwab
2007-06-04 9:20 ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-06-04 9:24 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-04 19:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04 9:25 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-04 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04 23:20 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 16:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 17:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17 21:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 18:53 ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? (was: Re: Post-22.1 development?) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-04 19:34 ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? David Kastrup
2007-06-04 19:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04 19:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-04 20:01 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-05 5:17 ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? (was: Re: Post-22.1 development?) Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 16:32 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-05 16:39 ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? David Kastrup
2007-06-05 18:39 ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-06 0:21 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-06 7:56 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06 8:45 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 9:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-06 10:25 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06 10:54 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 12:02 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-06 12:06 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 13:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-06 13:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 12:38 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-06 15:11 ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06 19:33 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-06 12:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-07 5:33 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07 6:12 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-04 19:31 ` Post-22.1 development? David Kastrup
2007-06-04 21:18 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-05 5:17 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 16:10 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-05 21:35 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-05 22:33 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 7:58 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-06 13:07 ` Johan Bockgård
2007-06-06 13:47 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-06-07 15:45 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-07 17:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-07 19:01 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-07 17:24 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-09 9:50 ` David House
2007-06-06 22:09 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-07 20:25 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-08 14:27 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-10 15:59 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-11 9:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11 10:04 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-11 11:25 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-11 17:02 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-11 19:08 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-11 22:23 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-13 8:07 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-12 16:00 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-12 16:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 16:57 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-12 17:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 22:09 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-12 23:38 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 16:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 18:19 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 19:15 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 18:44 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 19:22 ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 19:47 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 20:08 ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-14 6:11 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14 6:18 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14 6:57 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14 7:33 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14 8:08 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14 8:39 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14 9:22 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-13 0:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 16:22 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 17:39 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 16:21 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 20:57 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-13 22:17 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15 6:09 ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-15 14:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14 7:49 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14 8:57 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-15 8:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15 9:02 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 18:51 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-05 5:17 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 6:17 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-05 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 20:52 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 16:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-05 21:13 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 16:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 21:10 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07 6:51 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07 6:57 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07 8:21 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07 9:04 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08 14:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 18:06 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07 18:33 ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-07 18:53 ` David House
2007-06-07 18:47 ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-08 5:54 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08 7:17 ` IPP under emacs [was: Re: Post-22.1 development?] Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 14:25 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-08 18:37 ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 20:20 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-08 20:59 ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 21:16 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-08 21:40 ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 21:43 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-09 1:41 ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-09 9:46 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-10 3:47 ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-10 7:11 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-10 13:18 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 17:49 ` Post-22.1 development? Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 18:41 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-08 20:12 ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-08 14:23 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 18:01 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08 19:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08 22:25 ` desktop.el/session.el [was: Post-22.1 development?] Davis Herring
2007-06-08 23:06 ` desktop.el/session.el Stefan Monnier
2007-06-09 21:32 ` desktop.el/session.el Juri Linkov
2007-06-09 20:24 ` Post-22.1 development? Richard Stallman
2007-06-10 7:23 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-09 20:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 7:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 9:01 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07 19:48 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 21:18 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07 22:17 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 22:53 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07 23:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-07 23:06 ` 48 line console [was Re: Post-22.1 development]? Nick Roberts
2007-06-08 0:03 ` 48 line console Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 1:34 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08 7:19 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 8:59 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08 9:50 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 10:40 ` 48 line console [was Re: Post-22.1 development]? Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-07 22:25 ` Post-22.1 development? David Reitter
2007-06-07 22:42 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 22:53 ` David Reitter
2007-06-08 13:57 ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-08 14:24 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 17:23 ` csant
2007-06-08 19:17 ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08 1:23 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-06-05 10:24 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-05 10:55 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-05 11:19 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-05 21:07 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-06 0:37 ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-05 19:17 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 19:55 ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-06 16:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 21:22 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-06 16:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 15:28 ` Neal Becker
2007-06-06 15:32 ` David House
2007-06-12 18:39 ` Jay Belanger
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