From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: want a file format easily edited and read by emacs that allows (multiple) pictures to be included Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 06:14:04 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <86h8t3glwj.fsf@zoho.com> References: <87tvx99t3y.fsf@gmail.com> <87indo7s7o.fsf@mbork.pl> <87d13u7qvo.fsf@mbork.pl> <86shcqg2a7.fsf@zoho.com> <878teh7o8a.fsf@mbork.pl> <86bmjdd8ey.fsf@zoho.com> <86vahjgul3.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512623729 19090 195.159.176.226 (7 Dec 2017 05:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 05:15:29 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 07 06:15:25 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMoWo-0004mu-2t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 06:15:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59060 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMoWt-0003Tk-SI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Dec 2017 00:15:27 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 55 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 1URbr41nCe2SieBX4meJ9w.user.gioia.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:Jux0jygc8jYUKf4AefPlDe9lhFo= X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:221170 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115282 Archived-At: Rusi wrote: > Dont see any (pic mode ASCII) There are *two* different parts of this! The ASCII is this: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/moasen/big-house-back.txt The pic source, for which I use nroff-mode, is this: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/moasen/drawing/ws.pic with the Makefile and output files in the same dir: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/moasen/drawing/ > * Lookup ditaa: http://ditaa.sourceforge.net/ > * Install (apt/sourceforge/org/whatever) * > (re)do your pic for ditaa * Get it working to > your satisfaction (no emacs or org so far; > just shell) * Get it running in org > http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-ditaa.html Re-doing it with another tool does not really count as "how can Org mode help me complete the task". If it can't, that's fine. It doesn't disqualify Org mode as a good IDE for other purposes. Actually I think not a lot of people do drawings with pic - it is rather for this kind of figures: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/figures/pic/ But in an indirect way this shows the built-in shortcoming that is inherent in all IDEs, which is they only work with what people thought is useful. The Emacs buffer and shell tools work for everything, including, as this example shows, ideas that that uses stuff that weren't even intented for that idea! So because it is on a lower level, very limited in itself, interestingly, this doesn't limit the user and he/she can take it to any level he/she wishes. If he/she has the ability to do so, of course ;) -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573