From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs manual mentioning thumbs mode but not tumme Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:53:30 +0200 Message-ID: <86fy6vnith.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177084428 770 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2007 15:53:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Mathias Dahl , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 20 17:53:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HevQa-0004Ss-81 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:53:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HevVe-0002FM-JH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:58:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HevVb-0002ER-7h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:58:51 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HevVZ-0002E7-LM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:58:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HevVZ-0002E4-I5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:58:49 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HevQU-00005f-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 11:53:34 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (pd95b0fdb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [217.91.15.219]) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13299 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:53:24 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 1905 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2007 15:53:30 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 20 Apr 2007 15:53:30 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 611628F86E; Fri, 20 Apr 2007 17:53:30 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Fri\, 20 Apr 2007 08\:47\:39 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:69703 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> It is mainly for images, but it is not the only way Emacs can display >> images. > > It's not about image display; it's about image browsing. > >> What is special about tumme is that it displays small versions >> of things. I.e., thumbnails. > > That might be special or new for Emacs now, but nearly all image viewers and > editors use thumbnail images. I don't think that is special enough to be > reflected in the library name. Especially since this library could be > extended in the future to do more with images and other multimedia file > types. > > As I said before: >>> What is important for naming is that this is an >>> editor/browser/viewer of the images contained in a directory. > > and >>> it's not the thumbnails themselves that constitute the feature >>> - it's the extension of editing/browsing/viewing to new file >>> types, including images. > > Tumme adds image browsing to Emacs. It extends Dired-like behavior to other > file types and displays thumbnail images of those files. That thumbnail > images are used for image browsing is taken for granted by users, a > no-brainer. The thumbnail feature will become less novel/noticeable in the > future, and the library might well be extended to do more things with the > files and treat more file types. > > I suggest emphasizing the library's Dired-like, image-browser > behavior. I also propose integrating it with Dired, after the > release. Too late. Try C-t C-h in dired. -- David Kastrup