From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs vista build failures Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:45:43 +0200 Message-ID: <86fxq1f0p4.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <36366a980807101702r5677d096g8e62ef5b3e278868@mail.gmail.com> <878wvxxkn6.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej5oz4pb.fsf@saeurebad.de> <87vdyzxype.fsf@saeurebad.de> <871w1njq32.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87iquzxgtk.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884CFEF.8040404@gmail.com> <87ej5nxew2.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884DA4F.20203@gmail.com> <8763qzxcfd.fsf@saeurebad.de> <4884E551.3050304@gmail.com> <86fxq2j1af.fsf@timbral.net> <4885977B.6090700@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216804413 21433 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2008 09:13:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 09:13:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Leake Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 23 11:14:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KLaQN-0003da-M1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 11:14:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43434 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLaPT-0007Bc-Nl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:13:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLaP1-00078T-3g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KLaOx-00076v-GD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:52 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33219 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KLaOx-00076U-0K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:12:51 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:35057) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KLZys-000803-Ji for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 04:45:55 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 23119 invoked from network); 23 Jul 2008 08:45:45 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 23 Jul 2008 08:45:45 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EF39F8F046; Wed, 23 Jul 2008 10:45:43 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stephen Leake's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 02:59:37 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.1.11; VDF: 7.0.5.155; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:101296 Archived-At: Stephen Leake writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Eli Zaretskii >>> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:14:29 -0400 >>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org >>> Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii >>> >>> unfortunately there's no native Windows port of a Posix shell that >>> is bug-free and powerful enough to run a typical configure script. >> >> At least to my best knowledge, that is. If someone knows about such a >> beast, please tell where to find it. > > Cygwin provides precisely that. No, it doesn't. > Some might say "it's not 'native'; it relies on the cygwin.dll". I > think that's a quibble; it's easy to install, But you can't use it without installing it. And installing it tampers with the registry. And it can't be done in a batch job without user interaction. And if you do some_command `pwd` in it, only Cygwin programs will be able to properly interpret the output of pwd. > No software is completely "bug-free", but Cygwin bash is as good as > any other port of Gnu bash, in my experience. It is useless as an installation helper since it requires you to interactively install and configure the whole of Cygwin and there is no easy way to get rid of it again and there is no reasonable way to entertain more than one installation of Cygwin on a single system since it tampers with the registry. -- David Kastrup