From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.w3m,gmane.emacs.help Subject: [emacs-w3m:13366] Re: reload twice with minimal (?) example and 'emacs -q' Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:53:46 +0200 Message-ID: <86ftqf53id.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <86pnpnbyxy.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190416.110627.599834820004484191.tats%nobody@tats.iris.ne.jp> <20190418.202225.68698405496995040.tats%nobody@tats.iris.ne.jp> <861s1z7blu.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190418221428.o75egdyxn4utk2dt@E15-2016.optimum.net> Reply-To: moasenwood@zoho.eu, emacs-w3m@namazu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="8526"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: emacs-w3m@namazu.org Original-X-From: emacs-w3m-admin@namazu.org Fri Apr 19 02:42:25 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gew-emacs-w3m-3@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from vaj.namazu.org ([202.221.179.42]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hHHbk-00021G-0V for gew-emacs-w3m-3@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 02:42:24 +0200 Original-Received: from vaj.namazu.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vaj.namazu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB0BEF4009C; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:42:21 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from blaine.gmane.org (unknown [195.159.176.226]) by vaj.namazu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB974F40085 for ; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 07:53:55 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hHFuj-000L18-KW for emacs-w3m@namazu.org; Fri, 19 Apr 2019 00:53:53 +0200 X-ML-Name: emacs-w3m X-Mail-Count: 13366 X-MLServer: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)](fml commands only mode); post only (only members can post) X-ML-Info: If you have a question, send e-mail with the body "help" (without quotes) to the address emacs-w3m-ctl@namazu.org; help= Mail-Followup-To: emacs-w3m@namazu.org X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Followup-To: gmane.emacs.w3m Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:YDhA86A/E4qwVA4KCBKMr2GXpr0= Precedence: bulk List-Id: emacs-w3m.namazu.org List-Software: fml [fml 4.0.3 release (20011202/4.0.3)] List-Post: List-Owner: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: Resent-From: yamaoka@jpl.org Resent-To: emacs-w3m@namazu.org (moderated) Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Apr 2019 09:42:21 +0900 Resent-Message-Id: <201904190942.FMLAAB27842.emacs-w3m@namazu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.w3m:10244 gmane.emacs.help:119997 Archived-At: Boruch Baum wrote: > 1] MELPA should auto-magically update its > version whenever a commit is made to the > master branch of the emacs-w3m project > github repository, so if you have M-x > list-packages set-up for MELPA, then you > can see the date and revision that they > are currently using, and update that way. > > 2] Because w3m-el and w3m-el-snapshots are > debian packages, they need to be manually > or semi-manually built, and then go > through a staging process passing through > the 'unstable' repository, which usually > takes a minimum of a few weeks, unless > there is some urgent security issue in > play. Separately, debian may be in some > stage of 'release-freeze', so it might be > impossible to upload an update with this > kind of patch to them. OK, is it encouraged to get Emacs-w3m from MELPA rather than the repos? I have always used the repos for Emacs-w3m in particular. It is the only "non-Emacs Emacs" stuff I get from there, BTW, not that I expect there to be a whole lot of other things around... MELPA (and/or (?) the Emacs package manager) reports Emacs-w3m as not installed: w3m 20190415.228 available melpa an Emacs interface to w3m As seen, the MELPA package version is 20190415.228 which seems pretty recent (BTW what does .228 mean? Surely there weren't 228 commits that day?!) I have 1.4.569 which is from the w3m-el-snapshot package which has the complete package version number 1.4.569+0.20170110-1 So there is a difference [1] of, holy socks! 2y 3m 5d (825d) But that's not the end of it. The w3m-el Debian package w3m-el has Emacs-w3m/package version 1.4.538+0.20141022-5, so the time difference here is (hold your breath) 4y 5m 24d (1636d) man(1)! Perhaps you should ditch the repos approach? Or is the software actually not that old? And what happens with the repos installation if I install it from MELPA? Does it make sense to purge it first? [1] 'time-from', line 38-78 @ http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/conf/.zsh/time -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573