From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Should native compilation be enabled by default? Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 10:26:00 +0200 Message-ID: <86frwq7fc7.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86sf19p0hw.fsf@gnu.org> <13305.117729918$1709671403@news.gmane.org> <87y1aku44q.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87wmq3vf57.fsf@yandex.com> <877ci3iiwj.fsf@localhost> <87sf0rvdpt.fsf@yandex.com> <87le6jvd1r.fsf@yandex.com> <861q8b8r2e.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyrvv4uh.fsf@yandex.com> <87zfuzdyhc.fsf@dataswamp.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27970"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 16 09:26:49 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rlPNR-00075D-Ax for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 09:26:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rlPMk-00057y-CU; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 04:26:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rlPMi-00057a-4U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 04:26:04 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rlPMg-0006ga-Lx; Sat, 16 Mar 2024 04:26:02 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=wCug/C8YZC4TK7QJNvIqj2yCRLsKZ16Ycdn5FoEg9ow=; b=DfVp3u1NRkHM SMtCrUZG39iRAJP3GvWwxX5tgDqwIEzoecjdsQKTUOpn82dvBE5ulfs2OzfDcQ+WMIr80FDZhYg4w i1og4nVZCl/JYguYLC8Sb5BP6Ch3dhP7Bn1bvbu57kAScmpdlkeznlsgd7j8q0UWNsjyUngQxml3J m+xEQB3b9jXO40hNoRDEuMVCQbl8mONC02iawo8gvmLfVJJzasaLAEKLqDXz2tQ7ZuyOZfPIpkCbO I6enTM3kyHB34GS9EYIsorcMnhSb5b75IGIBCvUVleodIKhDxsmN2JyXcr+qeslU5CTjHjXzN+YMx dpTidDXv8uysYtMnlil7/g==; In-Reply-To: <87zfuzdyhc.fsf@dataswamp.org> (message from Emanuel Berg on Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:35:59 +0100) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317099 Archived-At: > From: Emanuel Berg > Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:35:59 +0100 > > Andrea Corallo wrote: > > >> My understanding, reading the reddit link, is that the > >> version XX of libgccjit should match that of gcc if the > >> former is to be found. In the event that it isn't > >> CC="gcc-XX" should be exported before ./configure. I stand > >> corrected if that isn't the case. > > > > If a distro installs a non functional libgccjit that should > > be a bug fixed in the distro, I don't think we should work > > around it changing the system compiler. > > It is a no brainer that all Emacs users should benefit from > native compilation, it is a some brainer how to make this > happen in practice without friction. After 2 major releases (which did uncover some friction, now solved), we are way past that.