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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
Cc: bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de, samologist@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org,
	jonas@bernoul.li, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com, visuweshm@gmail.com,
	raman@google.com
Subject: Re: Alternative defaults for visually impaired users?
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:41:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86frmc0wad.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87r05w18am.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Wed, 25 Dec 2024 08:22:25 +0000)

> From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
> Cc: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
>  rms@gnu.org, jonas@bernoul.li, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
>  karthikchikmagalur@gmail.com, visuweshm@gmail.com, raman@google.com
> Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2024 08:22:25 +0000
> 
> Björn Bidar <bjorn.bidar@thaodan.de> writes:
> 
> >> Are there any specific places where you have to mix mouse and keyboard?
> >
> > Not having to directly but it is sometimes difficult how to find a
> > keybind for something that has a button such as the Gnus attachment
> > context-menu.
> >
> > There might be other places where this is the issue.
> 
> AFAIK, menus usually display the key binding used to call a menu
> item. Unless there is no such binding.

The bindings shown in menus prefer bindings of mouse clicks, which is
not necessarily helpful if the user doesn't want or is unable to use
the mouse.  We even have special commands written specifically for the
purpose of binding them in menus, and those commands are different
from their keyboard equivalents, because they are optimized to be
invoked by mouse through the menu.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-25 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 12:36 Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu? Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-15 14:36 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-17 12:18   ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-09-22 12:50     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-09-24 10:07       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-12 17:31         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-22  7:23           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-22 17:58             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-24 14:18             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-24 17:32               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-26 11:45                 ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-10-27  8:09                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-27  9:17                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29  4:58                   ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-29 18:55                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-30  5:37                       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-30 18:43                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 18:55                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-10-31 19:05                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-10-31 20:47                               ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01  8:27                                 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-01 17:08                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 19:04                                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-02 19:21                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-02 21:37                                         ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-03  7:40                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-05 10:07                                             ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-09 14:08                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-10 16:33                                                 ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-10 16:41                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-11 10:03                                                     ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-11 15:52                                                       ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-12  9:26                                                         ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-12 18:03                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                                                             ` <CAO0k703a5SCv4Eaogjs-14zgmTi-pK5qqG=8VzB8+7h-kcC8yg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                                               ` <87wmh8s358.fsf@localhost>
     [not found]                                                                 ` <87y11nwp9z.fsf@gmail.com>
2024-11-17  9:30                                                                   ` Fwd: " Tor-björn Claesson
2024-11-23 16:41                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-11-25 17:49                                                                       ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-10 19:11                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-11  9:57                                                                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-11 10:05                                                                           ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-13 18:41                                                                             ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:09                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14  9:57                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 10:59                                                                                   ` Gabriel Santos
2024-12-14 13:10                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-13 22:57                                                                               ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  9:59                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-14 14:30                                                                                   ` Suhail Singh
2024-12-14  1:16                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Panayotis Manganaris
2024-12-14 10:08                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-15 21:20                                                                                   ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-16 17:54                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-17  2:08                                                                                       ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17  2:24                                                                                         ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-17 18:04                                                                                         ` Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-18  7:19                                                                                           ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:52                                                                                             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19  1:42                                                                                               ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19  1:50                                                                                               ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 17:59                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19  1:48                                                                                               ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-19 18:04                                                                                                 ` [FR] Allow SPC to scroll todo/tag selection menu - for users with huge accessible fonts (was: Transient: accessibility problems for users who need to use large fonts (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?))) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-20  6:55                                                                                                   ` Samuel Wales
2024-12-18 10:47                                                                                         ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?) Jonas Bernoulli
2024-12-19 17:42                                                                                           ` Internal variables and symbols in transient (was: [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? (was: Fwd: Org-cite: Replace basic follow-processor with transient menu?)) Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-19 18:11                                                                                           ` Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? " Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22  4:49                                                                                             ` Richard Stallman
2024-12-22  9:29                                                                                               ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:25                                                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-22 18:17                                                                                                   ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 18:54                                                                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <87bjx2ls6k.fsf@localhost>
2024-12-23 13:47                                                                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-23 16:47                                                                                                           ` Ihor Radchenko
     [not found]                                                                                                       ` <CAJcAo8vFHgC=B44_Zpawj=ZOKAW2viFT62cxddq6Q=d7PQF50A@mail.gmail.com>
2024-12-24  9:23                                                                                                         ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-24 21:40                                                                                                           ` Alternative defaults for visually impaired users? Björn Bidar
     [not found]                                                                                                           ` <877c7on4ju.fsf@>
2024-12-25  8:22                                                                                                             ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-25 12:41                                                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-14 10:50                                                                               ` [RFC] The best way to choose an "action" at point: context-menu-mode, transient, which-key or embark? indieterminacy
2024-12-14 17:53                                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-15  9:07                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-16  7:46                                                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-16 18:06                                                                                     ` Ihor Radchenko
2024-12-22 12:16                                                                                       ` Tor-björn Claesson
     [not found]                                                                                         ` <87h66ult46.fsf@localhost>
2024-12-24  7:04                                                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 11:39                                                                                             ` Tor-björn Claesson
2024-12-15 18:23                                                                               ` Kierin Bell
2024-12-17 17:23                                                                                 ` Ihor Radchenko

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