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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, mattiase@acm.org,
	eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New "make benchmark" target
Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 20:16:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86frm5nii8.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o70txew4.fsf@protonmail.com> (message from Pip Cet on Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:25:44 +0000)

> Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 17:25:44 +0000
> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@protonmail.com>
> Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, mattiase@acm.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
> Top-posted TL;DR: let's call Andrea's code "make elisp-benchmarks" and
> include it now?  That would preserve the Git history and importantly (to
> me) reserve the name for now.

Fine by me.

> And I don't usually run ERT tests individually, while I'm trying to get
> in the habit of running the (non-expensive) test suite before I push.

I do it all the time, when I install some change and want to make sure
the related tests still pass.

> My suggestion is a compromise: add "make elisp-benchmarks" now, using
> Andrea's code, then consider more complicated ERT-based approaches
> without being in any hurry to do so.  But, also, let's agree that the
> ERT-based approaches are "allowed" to reuse the elisp-benchmarks code
> without providing comparable results or a porting mechanism, and keep
> the "make benchmark" name reserved for a while.

Of course ERT-based approaches are allowed.  I only chimed into this
discussion because that approach bumped into some difficulties.

> My prediction is that it will turn out "make elisp-benchmarks" doesn't
> usually provide very useful results, and expansion of the test framework
> to produce useful results is easier reusing the ERT framework.

We'll see, and if you are right, we will work on improving the
benchmarks.

> My preference would be a top-level directory called "elisp-benchmarks",
> but ultimately that's a minor question, so just let me know the
> preferred destination.

I thought we wanted it under test/ ?

But I'm also okay with having a directory that is sibling to test/ if
there are no objections from Andrea and others.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-30 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-11 22:37 Improving EQ Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-12  6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12  8:23   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-12  8:36   ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-12  9:18     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12  9:35     ` Visuwesh
2024-12-12 10:40     ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-12 17:46       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-12 19:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 10:53     ` New "make benchmark" target Stefan Kangas
2024-12-12 10:59       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-12 16:53         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-13  0:49           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-13  7:37             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-14 12:00               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-14 14:06                 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-14 11:34             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-14 11:58               ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-14 20:07                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-14 20:20                   ` João Távora
2024-12-15  0:57                   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-22 16:04                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-29 10:47                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-30 11:45                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 14:15                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:00                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:21                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 15:49                                 ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 15:53                                   ` João Távora
2024-12-30 16:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 17:25                                     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-30 18:16                                       ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-31  4:00                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31  5:26                                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-31 13:05                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:14                                               ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31 14:22                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 12:53                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:34                                             ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-30 18:26                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-30 18:58                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-30 21:34                                         ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-31  9:55                                           ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-31 12:43                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-31 14:01                                             ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-15  0:58                   ` Stefan Kangas
2024-12-12 10:42 ` Improving EQ Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-12 10:50   ` Andrea Corallo
2024-12-12 11:21     ` Óscar Fuentes
2024-12-13 12:24       ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-12 17:05     ` Pip Cet via Emacs development discussions.
2024-12-12 18:10     ` John ff

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