From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: A wish, a plea Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:11:07 +0200 Message-ID: <86ejk4jtno.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <4679F561.4030600@hacksaw.org> <87d4zomyiw.fsf@red-bean.com> <87fy4kjy0k.fsf@red-bean.com> <467AF6CC.2000300@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1182499919 5673 80.91.229.12 (22 Jun 2007 08:11:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 08:11:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Karl Fogel , Hacksaw , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Jason Rumney To: Sascha Wilde Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 10:11:57 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I1eFI-00018d-UK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:11:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1eFI-0003rH-AB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:11:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1eEc-0003SZ-7G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:11:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I1eEb-0003RY-6U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I1eEa-0003RR-Ue for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:11:13 -0400 Original-Received: from pc3.berlin.powerweb.de ([62.67.228.11]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I1eEa-0003fZ-8v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:11:12 -0400 Original-Received: from quinscape.de (dslnet.212-29-44.ip210.dokom.de [212.29.44.210] (may be forged)) by pc3.berlin.powerweb.de (8.9.3p3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10315 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:11:07 +0200 X-Delivered-To: Original-Received: (qmail 22342 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2007 08:11:07 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by ns.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Jun 2007 08:11:07 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 775388FC8F; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:11:07 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Sascha Wilde's message of "Fri\, 22 Jun 2007 10\:03\:22 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/23.0.51 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:73592 Archived-At: Sascha Wilde writes: > Jason Rumney wrote: > >> How about if Emacs left the splash screen as the active buffer if there >> were no files listed on the command-line, until the user deliberately >> switches buffers (either with C-x C-f to edit a new file, or C-x b to >> *scratch*) > > Please don't. There is nothing more useless than a splash screen -- > there is a good reason, that we have inhibit-splash-screen. By the way: I think that our choice of having the splash screen displayed by default even when Emacs is called with a file name is a mistake. Even more so if the same happens when using emacsclient. Is there _anybody_ who does not find this behavior annoying? When Emacs is called with a filename, one has a task to do and wants to move forward. > Btw. it might be a good idea to separate inhibiting the splash > screen from inhibiting the initial message in *scratch*... As for the default buffer to use: how about using a buffer *unnamed* that will be in text-mode, that will ask for being saved when one kills Emacs, and that will ask for a filename when being saved (the file name becoming then the base for the buffer name)? Retain *scratch* including the initial message. -- David Kastrup