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From: Joseph Mingrone <jrm@ftfl.ca>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Speed of keyboard macro execution?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 22:14:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86egesbegr.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 83r3iu9rvp.fsf@gnu.org

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Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> It's a bit disingenuous on the part of that person to compare Emacs
> with another editor _solely_ where there's a known inefficiency in
> Emacs, and pretend that this is somehow representative of the general
> differences in performance between these two editors.  After all, how
> frequently do you need to edit files with lines in excess of 11K
> characters?

The intention wasn't to be misleading or trash Emacs, but to highlight
an area ripe for improvement.  I also assumed it was common knowledge
for anyone that would be interested in such an esoteric topic that mg
is a shell of Emacs in terms of features, so the comparison is
"contrived".

Below is a comment I added to the video shortly after it was posted.

Following the discussions on Reddit [1] and more testing, it's clear
that the major difference in speed was a result of certain operations
within the macros than the macros themselves.

emacs -nw -Q:

Slow:
M-: (while (< (point) (point-max)) (end-of-line) (insert ",")
(next-line) (beginning-of-line nil))

Within a second or two:
Define a macro with M-x end-of-line / , / C-f and run it 3869 times.

Instantaneous:
M-: (while (< (point) (point-max)) (end-of-line) (insert ",")
(forward-line 1))
M-: (replace-regexp "$" ",")

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/3vp583/macros_in_gnu_emacs_and_mg_speed_comparison/


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-12  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-09 21:39 Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-09 22:13 ` David Engster
2015-12-09 23:03   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 16:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:00       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:14         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:27         ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:33           ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 17:39             ` David Engster
2015-12-10 17:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:10               ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 18:41                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:44               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 18:57                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 19:38                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:09                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:55                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:16                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:18                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:36                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:43                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:01                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 21:26                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 23:35                                   ` David Kastrup
2015-12-11  1:14                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-12-11  6:27                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 22:56                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:46                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-12-13  0:16                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-12-13  0:32                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:20                                     ` Per Starbäck
2015-12-12 16:51                                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-12 17:42                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-12-12 23:01                                     ` Disabling visual lines for macros (was: Speed of keyboard macro execution?) John Wiegley
2015-12-12 23:33                                       ` Disabling visual lines for macros David Kastrup
2015-12-10 20:45                             ` Speed of keyboard macro execution? Perry E. Metzger
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 20:48                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 20:50                               ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 21:13                               ` David Kastrup
2015-12-10 17:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 17:43           ` John Wiegley
2015-12-10 17:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-10 18:15       ` Achim Gratz
2015-12-10 18:47         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12  2:14       ` Joseph Mingrone [this message]
2015-12-12  7:39         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 17:28           ` Joseph Mingrone
2015-12-12 17:57             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-12-12 18:12               ` Joseph Mingrone

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