From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Modify text appearance (put spaces after commas just for display) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:40:21 +0200 Message-ID: <86efqpzqai.fsf@zoho.com> References: <20170926093255.GD1556@tuxteam.de> <86wp4l22du.fsf@zoho.com> <874lrnt64x.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <20170928120955.GB11874@tuxteam.de> <867ewi22sb.fsf@zoho.com> <20170928171840.GC21363@tuxteam.de> <86vak2ypir.fsf@zoho.com> <20170929071901.GA15026@tuxteam.de> <86mv5dzu6z.fsf@zoho.com> <20170929103422.GF15026@tuxteam.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506685270 5152 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2017 11:41:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:41:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 29 13:41:02 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxtfC-0000p9-1j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:41:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34873 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxtfJ-0006Xm-9N for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58044) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxteo-0006XU-4e for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:40:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxtej-0004Wy-99 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:40:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=37928 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dxtej-0004WZ-2T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 07:40:33 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxteY-0006PH-J9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 13:40:22 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 81 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:q7T+d+rojIuVycDYP1hSrY+e3X8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114465 Archived-At: t wrote: > I have the hunch that there are some > fundamental differences between people which > somehow shine through to what kind of > language and culture they gravitate to. > Oversimplified, there are the Java types and > the Lisp types, or the Python types and the > Perl types (note that those two last > languages are pretty similar, which at first > sight makes this rift the more paradoxical, > but the language cultures are utterly > different), or the Eclipse types, the vi > types and the Emacs types. I agree Perl and Python are similar to some degree, Perl is older and more classy tho (1987 to Python's 1991), Perl being the original "P" of the LAMP stack. I have used both Perl and Python but very little, however not being an OO guy and detesting the forced indentation of Python (indentation of course being mandatory still) I give Perl the upper hand. For sure, there is no comparing Lisp to Java they don't even belong in the same sentence, which is why I made this one intentionally incorrect. But, what you call "fundamental differences between people" I call the old elitism and snobbism and the fact that there just are technologies of different caliber - just like the ice-hockey team of Russia is superior to England's, and the English rugby team is better than ditto Russian - and I have no issues with that whatsoever - perhaps because I myself always used what was at the top of the pecking order :) http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/pics/lang.png > If my hunch is correct, then there's no > "right" language There isn't any right or wrong, but there is a pecking order. > and religion wars over that are just a waste > of time. Religious wars are a "waste of time", but what isn't, in the end? And can you really waste time, since doing something else the same amount of time will waste the same amount of time? If you enjoy the flame wars, I suppose that's the reason to do it. If you care about *the perception* of time throw the computer into a rock wall and be done with it. >> Or well, not exactly like "any" code, >> because having code like that isn't healthy. >> It is un-ergonomic for the brain as well as >> the body. > > See? That's where we disagree on. Easy to > learn isn't always the same as easy to use, OK? Well, having code look like that will make it a much bigger effort to deal with and your fingers/shoulders/eyes/brain, your whole being will suffer from this for no reason, because there is no reason for code to look like that. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573