From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Gmane up again Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:46:44 +0100 Message-ID: <86ef8j5cp7.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <8736p097fn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <86pns47byt.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190207171929921417367@bob.proulx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="90682"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Feb 08 01:47:40 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gruKR-000NRp-Oz for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:47:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49084 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gruKQ-0006Jj-QS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 19:47:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52935) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gruJj-0006Jc-Go for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 19:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gruJi-0004Sl-Dx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 19:46:55 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=40966 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gruJi-0004Qq-6a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Feb 2019 19:46:54 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gruJd-000MOI-9H for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Feb 2019 01:46:49 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:4KZgmtKfbSMjM/RMRzPnrCnmyEU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:119264 Archived-At: Bob Proulx wrote: > Indeed I do not see any messages from the > newsgroup relays here in help-gnu-emacs > mailing list with the last being January 4th. > This correlates (correlation is not > causation) with the IP address subnet > migration from the previous ISP to the > new one. Yeah, that should be that. The traffic here on help-gnu-emacs/gmane.emacs.help don't end up there (gnu.emacs.help) either, so that means the remaining traffic there is *Usenet only* - that means, the group will die very soon. I don't mind that except I feel at this point we are ignoring the guys who try to reach the Emacs community with their issues. But I suppose they will learn fast enough. > I have no visibility into the newsgroup side > of things. Likewise I do not know who to > contact on the newsgroup side of things if it > were to get fixed. I can drop the people at nntp.aioe.org a mail and ask how it looks from their side. I actually have no idea whatsoever how they, and other Usenet providers (?), go about their business. For example, if they add/remove groups manually or if there is some self-learning algorithm that does that... > If others were interested in the newsgroup > gateway then they would probably need to file > a ticket with gnu sysadmin to look into > the problem. Which one? https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/know.your.sysadmin.html -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573