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From: andres.ramirez <rrandresf@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: tree-sitter and emacs-devel
Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 17:07:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86eet56cke.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ftdlyhx0.fsf@gnu.org>

>>>>> "Eli" == Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> Date: Thu, 02 Apr
>> 2020 12:01:38 -0400
>> 
>> FWIW, re-reading over the discussions around emacs-tree-sitter of
>> the last few days, I must say I'm not proud: if I were a
>> contributor to tree-sitter and/or emacs-tree-sitter, all this
>> squabbling over how tree-sitter "should" work (from people who have
>> not been involved in either of those and don't have any practical
>> experience of how it performs or why it's designed that way) would
>> make me run away screaming and promising myself never to come back
>> to that mad house.

Eli> I actually think that this discussion brought up several
Eli> important issues and topics (and I don't mean my own messages)
Eli> that should be considered if such technology is to become part of
Eli> Emacs (and I very much hope it will).  Yes, there's quite a bit
Eli> of noise, as in any discussion, but that's inevitable.  The
Eli> alternative is to invent your own wheel each time, and make all
Eli> the same mistakes.

Eli> I remember a similar situation on the emacs-bidi mailing list 15
Eli> years ago when the bidirectional editing support for Emacs was
Eli> just a pipe dream.  Many of the ideas expressed there I tossed,
Eli> but some are now part of our implementation, and I'm glad I had
Eli> the opportunity to hear them.  I'm also glad that Gerd Moellmann
Eli> was there to provide his perspective on what would and what
Eli> wouldn't be viable, I would have never arrived at the current
Eli> design without his guidance, not without making several grave
Eli> mistakes anyway.

+1

This discussion have bring me food for thought.



  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-02 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02 16:01 tree-sitter and emacs-devel Stefan Monnier
2020-04-02 16:12 ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-02 16:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-02 17:07   ` andres.ramirez [this message]
2020-04-03  5:07     ` Jorge Javier Araya Navarro
2020-04-03 13:43   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 14:12     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-03 15:13       ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-04  8:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-04 18:00           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-03 14:57 ` Tuấn-Anh Nguyễn
2020-04-04  1:27   ` Richard Stallman

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