From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#68663: Unsaved buffers dialog is unhelpful Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:08:35 +0200 Message-ID: <86ede3824s.fsf@gnu.org> References: Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38626"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 68663@debbugs.gnu.org To: Nikolay Kudryavtsev Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 27 12:09:43 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgZC-0009rs-7U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 12:09:42 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYT-0006jF-Ol; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYR-0006iM-Sh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYR-0003nC-KQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYY-000134-8l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:09:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 68663 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 68663-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B68663.17063537334017 (code B ref 68663); Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:09:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 68663) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2024 11:08:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53560 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYO-00012h-N8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:52 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYM-00012U-Ke for 68663@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:51 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTgYA-0003mD-2q; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:08:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=mf/PLgW8LaSyACTm3KXNhxlfYw+QkCz7OaBXlTAbYo0=; b=PBinytdVlIvV GlYvEeVn8WbQll2D/H3wv7XttV2nY7fI2aaT/CZk/7bVrJ7H2/zbIzzYTDlrUZZbQiDu/jloY7ypT CXry7Nr28xgnY+xnKLeeanwWPYrfaQ0Ae+IfGXhV1DCcnzlUnnE4lVfB8tWdeWjz4aWYhEkGuJ6nG f/0WG5ZlJzIiQ+qTQ0tKS+b9RDf+X2+keDXfcEOxWLK6MweY9zSgdjlBNVYZO2CyLavkmWrhuHsei +NfQ+AkkjTzgeRoyh735uQDKLCpSjXvENwmPQjgYL4dAGTqp/hV6Q31zLVaQ0nPWABRdrJvu71egs qHYOIXRwK5fXAXSi10qsRQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Nikolay Kudryavtsev on Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:37:25 +0300) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:278992 Archived-At: > From: Nikolay Kudryavtsev > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:37:25 +0300 > > Hello. > > Ever since 29.1 there's been a regression in user prompts when closing > Emacs with multiple modified buffers. Now user only gets 3 options: > > - Close without saving > > - Save all > > - Cancel > > In 28.2 and earlier, for every buffer, the user would get the prompt > asking to save the file and the following options: > > -Yes(save the file) > > -No(don't) > > -View This Buffer > > -View This Buffer And Quit > > -View Changes in This Buffer > > -Save This Buffer But No More > > -Save All Buffers > > -No For All I can only reproduce this when exiting Emacs via the menu-bar, by clicking File->Quit. If I exit Emacs with "C-x C-c", I see in Emacs 29 the same options as in Emacs 28. > I would argue that, while the old dialog may have been over-complicated > in terms of user options, the new dialog is useless. The only two > options available are the ones that a reasonable user would never use. I disagree, FWIW. I think they are the 2 most important options.