From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <basil@contovou.net>
Cc: manuel@ledu-giraud.fr, 71264@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#71264: 30.0.50; Dired deletion moves point under auto-revert
Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 18:23:45 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ed9fmkqm.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h6eb75lg.fsf@epfl.ch> (basil@contovou.net)
> From: "Basil L. Contovounesios" <basil@contovou.net>
> Cc: Manuel Giraud <manuel@ledu-giraud.fr>, 71264@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2024 16:59:55 +0200
>
> Eli Zaretskii [2024-06-01 20:59 +0300] wrote:
>
> >> Cc: 71264@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2024 19:19:12 +0200
> >> From: Manuel Giraud via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs,
> >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> >>
> >> I don't know how to prevent this yet.
> >
> > I'm not sure I understand why we need to prevent that.
>
> I encounter this most often in my homedir: it contains ~140 subdirs and
> files, meaning BOB and EOB are separated by ~2 pagefuls. Files are
> sorted by name in groups: subdirs first, then dotfiles, then the rest.
> Each time some program, such as a screenshot application, stores a file
> in my homedir, it appears near EOB. And each time I delete such a file,
> I lose my current position and have to scroll down 2 pagefuls again.
>
> I understand that auto-revert-mode can come with limitations, but I
> don't think this UX is right, and I imagine Dired can do better.
Maybe I misunderstood what was meant by "this" in "how to prevent
this". The preceding text was:
> It seems to me that the 'y-or-n-p' call gives the opportunity of a time
> window for the dired buffer to be reverted. But then, when this revert
> happen the file "foo" has already disappeared so it cannot be found and
> the point ends up at the BOB.
So which part of this did Manuel want "to prevent"? That y-or-n-p
doesn't block file notifications is AFAIU by design, and preventing
that could cause much more serious problems. What I don't understand
is two things:
. why the fact that "foo"s buffer was reverted affects Dired, and
what is expected from Dired when a file and its buffer are deleted?
. why the effect is to move point to BOB?
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-29 21:48 bug#71264: 30.0.50; Dired deletion moves point under auto-revert Basil L. Contovounesios
2024-05-31 9:29 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-31 9:42 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-31 12:10 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2024-05-31 12:54 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-05-31 15:48 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-01 17:19 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-01 17:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-02 14:59 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2024-06-02 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-06-02 17:02 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2024-06-03 18:53 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-03 19:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-03 20:00 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-04 14:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-04 19:51 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-07 10:11 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-08 16:11 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-15 8:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-17 9:29 ` Manuel Giraud via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-06-22 8:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
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