From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: dancol@dancol.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Cc: acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:34:15 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ed8ncv2g.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msnbcvf7.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:26:36 +0300)
> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2024 22:26:36 +0300
> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, stefankangas@gmail.com,
> emacs-devel@gnu.org
>
> > Why not just set up the keybindings by default and autoload the package when the bindings are invoked? That's the friction minimizing option. We don't have to change any bindings installed by the current windmove code.
>
> I think this is too drastic, that's why.
Actually, even more than that: it makes little sense to me to have by
default key bindings to a package that is not preloaded. I don't
think we have any precedent for this. And preloading windmove is also
not justified.
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2021-08-21 19:10 Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-21 19:27 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-21 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:35 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-21 19:42 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2021-08-25 13:12 ` Kaushal Modi
2021-08-21 20:20 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 6:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-08-22 8:32 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 13:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-08-22 0:43 ` Phil Sainty
2021-08-22 5:13 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-22 9:22 ` Teemu Likonen
2021-08-21 19:26 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 8:37 ` Juri Linkov
2021-08-22 14:05 ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-22 19:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2021-08-22 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-22 22:01 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-23 5:16 ` Bozhidar Batsov
2021-08-24 21:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2021-08-25 3:42 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-21 19:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-21 20:39 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 10:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 11:14 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 12:05 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 12:30 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 13:29 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 13:34 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 20:55 ` chad
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 12:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 13:40 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 13:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 7:41 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 12:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 15:09 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-24 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-25 1:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-24 15:57 ` Petteri Hintsanen
2024-06-25 21:26 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-26 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 11:44 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 13:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 13:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 15:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-28 19:47 ` Hovav Shacham
2024-06-28 20:45 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-29 7:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 1:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-26 13:22 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:13 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:21 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 15:15 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:27 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 15:42 ` Colin Baxter
2024-06-26 16:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:41 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-26 15:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-26 14:49 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 15:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-26 13:53 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-26 14:48 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 14:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 14:51 ` Po Lu
2024-06-26 15:01 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 15:35 ` Augusto Stoffel
2024-06-26 17:02 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 6:28 ` Visuwesh
2024-06-23 14:28 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:37 ` Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-24 10:35 ` Joel Reicher
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 13:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 14:14 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out [was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove] tomas
2024-06-23 14:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:34 ` tomas
2024-06-23 19:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-25 14:28 ` [External] : Re: Telemetry, opt-in, opt-out " Madhu
2024-06-25 17:19 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-25 23:03 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide via Emacs development discussions.
2024-06-28 4:02 ` Richard Stallman
2024-06-28 5:28 ` Telemetry, opt-in,opt-out " Ihor Radchenko
2024-06-28 6:33 ` tomas
2024-06-23 14:25 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Po Lu
2024-06-23 14:38 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 15:24 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 15:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:10 ` Gregor Zattler
2024-06-23 13:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-23 14:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 16:32 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 18:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 18:51 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-06-23 19:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-23 19:34 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-06-23 19:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-23 21:09 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-23 19:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-23 20:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-23 20:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-06-23 21:12 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 2:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 10:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-24 11:45 ` Po Lu
2024-06-25 2:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-24 3:29 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 4:23 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-06-24 7:18 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-24 14:46 ` Drew Adams
2024-06-24 6:32 ` Juri Linkov
2024-06-26 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-26 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-06-27 5:16 ` Attitude (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-27 12:19 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 1:29 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Stefan Kangas
2024-07-01 10:07 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 10:47 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:20 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 18:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 0:52 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 11:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 13:28 ` Po Lu
2024-07-01 13:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-01 19:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-01 21:24 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 22:07 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:00 ` Po Lu
2024-07-02 3:26 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Monnier
2024-07-02 4:34 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 5:59 ` C-o Gerd Möllmann
2024-07-02 6:23 ` C-o Visuwesh
2024-07-02 12:51 ` C-o Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 13:06 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 13:39 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-03 9:24 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-03 11:33 ` C-o Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-03 12:15 ` C-o Po Lu
2024-07-02 14:02 ` C-o T.V Raman
2024-07-02 15:36 ` C-o Alfred M. Szmidt
2024-07-02 22:27 ` C-o Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 22:31 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 22:44 ` C-o Jeremy Bryant
2024-07-03 10:07 ` C-o (was: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove) Per Starbäck
2024-07-03 12:48 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 16:24 ` C-o Yuri Khan
2024-07-03 16:32 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-05 4:14 ` C-o Richard Stallman
2024-07-05 4:28 ` C-o Howard Melman
2024-07-03 19:13 ` C-o Bob Rogers
2024-07-02 7:28 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-02 11:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-02 1:01 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 1:51 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-02 2:20 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-07-02 3:47 ` Drew Adams
2024-07-02 22:41 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-02 1:47 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
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2024-07-02 13:08 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 14:43 ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2024-07-01 18:12 ` [External] : Re: Proposal: new default bindings for windmove. [Working minor mode] Alan Mackenzie
2024-07-01 18:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-04 2:26 ` Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Richard Stallman
2024-07-01 23:18 ` Daniel Colascione
2024-07-02 1:02 ` Po Lu via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-02 2:03 ` Howard Melman
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2024-07-02 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
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