From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal: new default bindings for winner and windmove Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 19:27:37 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86ed8bdazi.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <875xto7lbn.fsf@dancol.org> <86ed8ce2mh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17810"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/31.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Daniel Colascione , Stefan Kangas , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Yuri Khan Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 02 18:36:33 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sOgUb-0004TK-6x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 18:36:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOgTz-0002c0-VD; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 12:35:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOgTw-0002bX-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 12:35:52 -0400 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::227]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sOgTs-0003Cy-Vg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Jul 2024 12:35:50 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5318120004; Tue, 2 Jul 2024 16:35:40 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Yuri Khan's message of "Tue, 2 Jul 2024 15:07:16 +0700") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::227; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:321184 Archived-At: >> > +@kindex C-x 4 DOWN >> >> I can't believe someone might want to use such long key sequences >> for one of the most frequent actions. It's even longer than >> 'C-x o' it's supposed to improve. I think there are no better keys >> for switching windows than arrows with a modifier. > > My feeling exactly. C-x o is already too long. > > Moreover, the modifier involved cannot be a common one, because Shift > is occupied by region selection, Ctrl and Alt with word movement. Alas, common modifiers are not available indeed, thus need to resort to Super/Hyper like I'm using: (setq-default windmove-default-keybindings '(nil super) windmove-swap-states-default-keybindings '(nil super shift) windmove-display-default-keybindings '(nil super meta) windmove-delete-default-keybindings `(,(kbd "C-x") super))