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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com>
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, jared@finder.org,
	74833@debbugs.gnu.org, fgunbin@fastmail.fm
Subject: bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 21:58:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86ed27pfhj.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN+1Hbo03URNb5dUVgiX8ofzrYiWG9VtB3AF9pjGvRxrMgyYDQ@mail.gmail.com> (message from Ship Mints on Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:20:40 -0500)

> From: Ship Mints <shipmints@gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:20:40 -0500
> Cc: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>, 
> 	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, Jared Finder <jared@finder.org>, 74833@debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> I think about it like this: if Terminal.app successfully passed through all its keys (which it can be configured to
> do), Command-C would appear in Emacs as M-c but it doesn't. Does it surprise you that Command-P offers
> the print dialog when Emacs is running in the terminal? This is no different than Command-C. That
> Terminal.app supersedes Emacs is not an Emacs problem, it's Terminal's problem. This feels like
> documentation issue not something to cure with default Emacs configuration.
> 
> Other terminal applications like iTerm or WezTerm can be programmed similarly to pass through all keys
> that you want them to with modifiers, but by default, they don't. These can't be Emacs's problem either.
> Same with Emacs run via ssh with tmux on the other side. That's a "default" set of features offered on many
> systems and their configuration is not Emacs's problem.

I see your points, but the fact remains that our enabling of
xterm-mouse-mode triggered these problems where previously there were
none.

> This issue sounds like an "impedance mismatch" to my ears, even if it surprises some users and requires
> some configuration depending on your specific goals and should perhaps be better documented.

If a default behavior needs documentation to explain it, it is usually
a sign of a not-very-good default, IME.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-12 17:54 bug#74833: 31.0.50; Copy to OS clipboard doesn't work in macOS Terminal.app with xterm-mouse-mode enabled Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-12 18:08 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 18:18   ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-12 18:20     ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 19:18   ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:32     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 20:07       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-12 20:31       ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13  7:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 14:46           ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 16:35           ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 16:42             ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 16:52               ` Ship Mints
2024-12-13 20:46                 ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 16:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 20:32               ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-13 20:54                 ` Ship Mints
2024-12-14  7:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14  9:40                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 16:32                     ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 17:30                       ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 17:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 17:53                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 19:09                         ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 19:20                           ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 19:57                             ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 19:58                             ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-12-16 20:07                               ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 20:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-17  3:32                                   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-17 12:32                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-18 17:50                                       ` Ship Mints
2024-12-19  5:16                                         ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-19 17:23                                           ` Ship Mints
2024-12-20 18:48                                             ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-16 19:53                           ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 20:25                             ` Filipp Gunbin
2024-12-16 20:29                               ` Ship Mints
2024-12-12 19:55   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16  1:41 ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-16  3:40   ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16  5:16     ` Jared Finder via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-16 16:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 16:47         ` Ship Mints
2024-12-16 17:36         ` Gerd Möllmann
2024-12-16 16:30     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-16 16:49   ` Filipp Gunbin

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