From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Danilo Segan Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Mapping of M-g should be goto-line Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:49:19 +0100 Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Message-ID: <86d671c780.fsf@avet.kvota.net> References: <20040325123800.4ADA.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> <86zna5cdnp.fsf@avet.kvota.net> <20040325143336.4AE3.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1080226855 29689 80.91.224.253 (25 Mar 2004 15:00:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 25 16:00:44 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6WLc-0007fR-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:00:44 +0100 Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B6WLc-00082N-00 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 16:00:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6W8o-0000sA-2z for emacs-devel@quimby.gnus.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:47:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by monty-python.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6W8i-0000rf-7N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:47:24 -0500 Original-Received: from mail by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.30) id 1B6W8A-0000kC-SK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:47:23 -0500 Original-Received: from [217.65.193.23] (helo=avet.kvota.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.30) id 1B6W86-0000iJ-HL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 25 Mar 2004 09:46:48 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 679 invoked by uid 1001); 25 Mar 2004 14:49:19 -0000 Original-To: Juanma Barranquero Mail-Followup-To: Juanma Barranquero , emacs-devel@gnu.org In-Reply-To: <20040325143336.4AE3.JMBARRANQUERO@wke.es> (Juanma Barranquero's message of "Thu, 25 Mar 2004 14:53:55 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.4 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+emacs-devel=quimby.gnus.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:20903 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel:20903 Today at 14:53, Juanma Barranquero wrote: >> Lets not knowingly hide very >> useful features such as next-error, and expose goto-line instead. > > The falacy here is that you consider next-error much more useful than > goto-line. I don't. I'd bet for users in general, many of which will > never compile a thing, going to a line is orders of magnitude more usual > than searching for an error. Yeah, I did make all conclusions on the assumption that next-error is more usable then goto-line. If that assumption fails, so do all the conclusions I made ;) Apart from programming-like stuff, I really cannot imagine lots of examples that really need goto-line. And what I can imagine, it can be automated, or it resembles programming a lot (like TeX/dvi). next-error is not used only for programming (eg. po-mode for translating program UIs via gettext PO files also makes use of it, and it has nothing to do with programming). >> since I'd like to point out that many others who >> reach for goto-line probably don't) > > Or, perhaps, it's just that there are not alternatives for a simple > task: going to a line. Not an error line, not a line containing some > text, just to the line numbered X. I still cannot imagine a real world example where such a thing would be _commonly_ used, but I'll blame my programming-deviation on that. ;) I think I'll ease on the spamming of emacs-devel for a while :) Cheers, Danilo