From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: merlyn@stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: odd change in OSX behavior of toolbar in the past few weeks Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:07:57 -0700 Organization: Stonehenge Consulting Services; Portland, Oregon, USA Message-ID: <86d4yy2x36.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <86myy6b7n3.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <86y7hm31m8.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> <86hcoa2x5v.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1184206214 14068 80.91.229.12 (12 Jul 2007 02:10:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 02:10:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 12 04:10:13 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1I8o8D-0004yl-Ir for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:10:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8o8D-0005Rx-2x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I8o8A-0005Ra-MZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:10:10 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1I8o88-0005RO-Aa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:10:09 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1I8o88-0005RL-4q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:10:08 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1I8o87-0007hi-MF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2007 22:10:07 -0400 Original-Received: from root by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1I8o82-00011D-OL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:10:02 +0200 Original-Received: from blue.stonehenge.com ([209.223.236.162]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:10:02 +0200 Original-Received: from merlyn by blue.stonehenge.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2007 04:10:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: blue.stonehenge.com x-mayan-date: Long count = 12.19.14.8.10; tzolkin = 3 Oc; haab = 18 Tzec User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/21.4 (berkeley-unix) Cancel-Lock: sha1:sEAJTtp03aMPggte5oYqaBHLBQg= X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:74679 Archived-At: >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: >>>>> "Stefan" == Stefan Monnier writes: Stefan> Weird indeed. Maybe it's just the fact of outputting a message which Stefan> causes some kind of redisplay. Maybe placing a call to `message' in Stefan> your .emacs can result in the same problem. Randal> Just tested. No. Again, weird. but (sit-for 1) *does*. So, if the screen is forced to show something before it finishes loading my customizations, it makes sense that it would have to show the toolbar, because it doesn't know not to show that yet. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!