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From: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Transposing words over middle words
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:39:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86d14h4u38.fsf@zoho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86efoxvn8i.fsf@verizon.net

Joseph C. Fineman wrote:

>> TL;DR: How can I transpose words jumping
>> over middle words?
>
> I think that, rather than expending
> cleverness on that particular problem, and
> then trying to remember the result,I would
> write a command that solved a more general
> problem

In general, it isn't better to try to solve the
general problem. The layman mechanic might
think an adjustable spanner is superior to
a (fixed size) combination spanner (the
"U-ring") - but on the contrary, it is much
worse, at least as long as you have the whole
set of metric and imperial sizes - and if you
don't, that's another issue. Specific gear for
specific purposes is what wins the day.

In programming, it is better to solve the
specific problem first, like this

    (count-to-five) ; 1 2 3 4 5

Only when you realize you need to count to four
as well you might consider

    (count-to x) ; 1 .. x

and

    (count-to 4)
    (count-to 5)

But even there, this

    (count-to-five)
    (count-to-four)

isn't always wrong. It depends. (This is a toy
example, of course.)

> & would be easy to remember.

Unless there is DWIM interface I'd say the
general solution can be less easy to remember
as you need to feed it argument(s) and/or tweak
it for the particular situation. Which is
slower than the specific solution, both
invocation and execution, as well.

General solutions are more good-looking tho :)

And you can have both at the same time!
Remember, "make the common [frequent] case fast
and the rare case correct."

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573




  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-17  0:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.3764.1510787840.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-16  7:04 ` Transposing words over middle words Loris Bennett
2017-11-16  8:41   ` Joost Kremers
2017-11-16  8:47     ` Joost Kremers
2017-11-16 16:06   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-16 22:26     ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-17  5:00       ` Yuri Khan
2017-11-17  5:08         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-17  8:55       ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2017-11-17  8:58         ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2017-11-17  9:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17  9:35             ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2017-11-17 16:03           ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-17 16:19             ` Robert Pluim
2017-11-17 20:41               ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-11-17 16:42             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 22:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-17 23:02                 ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]             ` <mailman.3897.1510936953.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-17 16:57               ` Rusi
2017-11-17 17:26                 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-17 18:05                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-17 22:55             ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-17 23:09               ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-21 17:21               ` Tomas Nordin
2017-11-22 18:18                 ` Arnaldo Mandel
2017-11-22 19:15                   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-22 21:33                 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-11-17 20:38         ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-11-18 17:11       ` Robert Thorpe
2017-11-16 21:55 ` Michael Piotrowski
2017-11-16 23:05 ` Joseph C. Fineman
2017-11-17  0:39   ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2017-11-17  7:19   ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-11-18 20:29     ` clhs on other languages f.nikolakopoulos
2017-11-21  0:43       ` Robert Thorpe
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3847.1510879170.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-17 23:34     ` Transposing words over middle words Joseph C. Fineman
2017-11-18  0:05       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3932.1510963563.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-18 22:55         ` Joseph C. Fineman
2017-11-18 23:57           ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]   ` <mailman.3856.1510903218.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-17 23:35     ` Joseph C. Fineman
2017-11-15 23:17 Bob Proulx
2017-11-15 23:35 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-16  6:03   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16  0:04 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-18 17:07   ` ken
2017-11-18 19:34     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-19  2:06       ` ken
2017-11-19  2:15         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-19  2:34           ` John Mastro
2017-11-19  3:39             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-19  4:37               ` Drew Adams
2017-11-19  4:58                 ` Drew Adams
2017-11-19 14:56                 ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 19:34 ` Charles A. Roelli
2017-11-16 19:41   ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 20:09   ` Marcin Borkowski
2017-11-16 21:15     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 22:55       ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-16 23:02         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 21:18     ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 22:43       ` Drew Adams
2017-11-16 22:59         ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-17 16:21           ` Drew Adams
2017-11-17 20:52             ` Emanuel Berg
2017-11-16 22:28   ` Bob Proulx
     [not found] ` <mailman.3765.1510789425.27995.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2017-11-16 22:02   ` Michael Piotrowski
2017-11-16 23:00     ` Bob Proulx
2017-11-16 23:29     ` Eric Abrahamsen
2017-11-16 23:30       ` Eric Abrahamsen

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