From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MPS and pgtk Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 09:08:33 +0300 Message-ID: <86cyo27w9q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <878qyr6ewh.fsf@disroot.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18418"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: spacibba@aol.com, avityazev@disroot.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, eller.helmut@gmail.com To: Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6llmann?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 27 08:10:37 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sMiL6-0004Tb-IZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 08:10:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMiJG-00043E-Ao; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 02:08:42 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMiJ9-0003zU-6q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 02:08:35 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sMiJ8-0003ca-UA; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 02:08:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=mdjQkQfA23ZGwR607zhzUyf2c74zjhDdVSi2MYSm6n0=; b=C2wRHPR2oU+l56XrgFk+ c91OFZ/dR/1EBoOBYgfyJjicHmr1F9VCZYRv21iCLa+/bkDWzRxuxWhWhf/qRNVba3OZ8tAh8hElk udRZ0x+UQpAyz0fs6QPoy0P5eGh/Xk3aHOTjBPATOSFUGpRoKll49ZvVyoF0zQhL9VIGjF6Ue8E6J w71uNCeeFQAdMsCEvk2DjMO+Li/dAFBCICTi8AWJszrUHszhjdJlJly06auX4Zt/apvOyJSX2n7Nm 9T17Tz+cpN4dJTNS1KVkhjAf2aWLvq946K49CNZDDdRp+e5hLc5W79c4XHNTsYO0p+oKisrUJhD0F H9lAKl93ZW20Hg==; In-Reply-To: (message from Gerd =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6llmann?= on Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:57:27 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320747 Archived-At: > From: Gerd Möllmann > Cc: Aleksandr Vityazev , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli > Zaretskii , eller.helmut@gmail.com > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2024 05:57:27 +0200 > > Ergus writes: > > >>Looks like pgtk is currently not supported, i.e. apparenlty no one > >>working on igc is using it, sorry. > >> > > This is wondering me because all the main distributions/desktops are > > moving (or have already moved) to Wayland. > > > > So, IMHO the pgtk support may be prioritized as it is the only way we > > support Wayland natively. > > > > Not sure if there are plans or alternatives under consideration to > > change/improve pgtk, but if igc becomes an issue for it... we may > > rethink if we really want it looking to the future? > > > > WDYT? > > The only thing I prioritize for myself is macOS and that in my fork with > CL packages :-). Also, the idea that an experimental branch that is > developed mainly by 2 people should prioritize such things is funny. And > finally, the assumption that igc has a problem with pgtk or the other > way around is false. Let me rephrase this in a more positive way: people who are interested in having the PGTK build work with MPS are encouraged to come on board, track this branch's development and the related discussions, and contribute ideas and patches for that configuration of Emacs. That's the only way of making sure the branch works with the PGTK build; it is not a question of changing priorities, because no one of those currently involved is intentionally neglecting PGTK in this respect.