Re: Discuss new features/enhancements or large changes for users in emacs-devel [was: My resignation from Emacs development]

[Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>]

> From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> CC: "adam@alphapapa.net" <adam@alphapapa.net>,
>         "emacs-devel@gnu.org"
> 	<emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2024 16:22:23 +0000
> 
> > > I think the crucial question was _where_ this discussion took place.
> > > It was in the bug reporting list, not emacs-devel.
> > >
> > > I have complained before that the practice of discussing a feature
> > > change on the bug list caused feature change ideas not to be
> > > recognized as such.  People should help notify all of us
> > > that we are discussing a feature change.
> > 
> > When such discussions happen on the bug list, we generally try to add
> > to the discussion people who might be relevant or whose opinions we
> > want to hear.  In other cases, someone insists to move the discussion
> > to emacs-devel.
> > 
> > Of course, mistakes can and do happen.  But the understanding that
> > some issues need broader discussions does exist, and there's no
> > intentional avoidance of that for some covert reasons.
> > 
> > Please also keep in mind that a person interested in some subject
> > could be off-line for some reason, not reading any of the Emacs lists,
> > when the discussion happens.  So even making sure all such discussions
> > happen on emacs-devel is not a guarantee that everyone who should be
> > involved will be.  (I do agree that emacs-devel is a better place for
> > discussing important changes, I'm just saying it is not a panacea.)
> 
> Good to hear.  IMO it does happen too often that
> something that could benefit from discussion on -
> or at least exposure to - emacs-devel stays on
> the bug list.

How often is "too often"?  Do you have some quantitative data about
the percentage of such discussions that happen on the bug tracker?