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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: mickey@masteringemacs.org, casouri@gmail.com, theo@thornhill.no,
	73404@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 21:54:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86cyh16nq3.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871pxhp24e.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (message from Juri Linkov on Sun, 05 Jan 2025 20:05:53 +0200)

> From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
> Cc: casouri@gmail.com,  theo@thornhill.no,  mickey@masteringemacs.org,
>   73404@debbugs.gnu.org,  monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2025 20:05:53 +0200
> 
> >> The command is 'forward-list'.  With 'list' it will do in ts-modes
> >> the same that 'forward-list' already does in non-ts modes.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > I tried this now in c-ts-mode, and it seems to behave strangely in
> > some cases.
> >
> > First, AFAICT it supports "lists" enclosed in "(..)", "{..}" and
> > "<..>", but not "[..]".  Is that expected?  Why don't we support
> > "[..]"?
> 
> This looks like a bug.  It would be nice if you posted an example.

That's easy:

  C-f C-f src/dispnew.c RET
  M-x -c-ts-mode RET
  C-s [ RET

This brings you to this function:

  static void
  check_rows (struct frame *f)
  {
    for (int y = 0; y < f->desired_matrix->nrows; ++y)
      if (MATRIX_ROW_ENABLED_P (f->desired_matrix, y))
	{
	  struct glyph_row *row = MATRIX_ROW (f->desired_matrix, y);
	  for (int x = 0; x < row->used[TEXT_AREA]; ++x)
	    eassert (row->glyphs[TEXT_AREA][x].frame != 0);
	}
  }

Move point to any of the [ brackets there and type C-M-n -- you will
be moved to the last ) of the function.

Another example on line 152 in dispnew.c:

  struct redisplay_history
  {
    char trace[512 + 100];
  };

Move point to the [ before 512: C-M-n will signal an error.

Any bracket in the file will trigger either the first or the second
behavior.

> > Next, it many times signals an error "No next group", which is less
> > useful than it could be.  For example:
> >
> > w32_get_internal_run_time (void)
> > {
> >   if (get_process_times_fn)
> >     {
> >       FILETIME create, exit, kernel, user;
> >       HANDLE proc = GetCurrentProcess ();
> >       if ((*get_process_times_fn) (proc, &create, &exit, &kernel, &user))
> >         {
> > 	  return ltime (total.QuadPart);
> >         }                              ^
> >     }
> >
> >   return Fcurrent_time ();
> > }
> >
> > If you put point on the semi-colon marked by "^", C-M-n signals an
> > error.  Can't we instead move to the next "list" after
> > "Fcurrent_time"?
> 
> 'C-M-n' doesn't move to the next statement in c-mode,
> since we need to support backward-compatibility.  The key
> that moves to the next statement ignoring nested lists
> in C modes is 'M-e'.

Well, then maybe we could have the more useful behavior as an opt-in
option?

> > Also, it sometimes "misses" what looks like a "list".  For example:
> >
> > s_pfn_Open_Process_Token = (OpenProcessToken_Proc)
> > 			    get_proc_addr (hm_advapi32, "OpenProcessToken");
> >
> > If you put point at the beginning of the line, C-M-n moves to the end
> > of the 2nd parenthesized group, not to the end of the first group.
> 
> Welcome to the twisty maze of tree-sitter grammars.  C-M-n is unable
> to move to the first group because it's inside the node in the AST:
> 
>     (cast_expression "("
>      type: (type_descriptor type: (type_identifier))
>      ")"
>      value: 
>       (call_expression function: (identifier)
>        arguments: 
>         (argument_list "(" (identifier) ,
>          (string_literal " (string_content) ")
>          ")")))
> 
> Both the first and the 2nd parenthesized groups are inside the
> "cast_expression" node.

Sorry, I don't follow: the parentheses of the argument list are also
inside a node, and yet we do recognize them.  What's the difference?

> > As for terminology: the Emacs user manual calls these "groupings
> > delimited by parentheses (or whatever else serves as delimiters in the
> > language you are working with)", or in short "parenthetical group".
> > Why cannot we keep this terminology?  It sounds like it describes its
> > subject as accurate as we can come up with.
> 
> So you prefer "group" over "list"?

As a shorthand; the better term is "parenthesized group".

> Then 'forward-list' should move over "group"?

I'm not sure we should rename the commands, given the legacy.  But
the doc string should use "group" or "parenthesized group", IMO.





  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-05 19:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-21  5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26  7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26  9:56   ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13       ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21           ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27  5:43               ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01  3:57                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02  6:14                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11  6:31                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50                                 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12  7:17                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  7:40                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12  7:58                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12  8:14                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49                                             ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13  7:06                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18  7:37                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  4:04                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19  7:14                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:18                                                   ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  3:02                                                     ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24  7:17                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24  7:41                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  3:25                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25  7:52                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26  1:00                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27  7:42                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03                                                         ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:49                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  9:11                                                             ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39                                                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19  7:34                               ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14                                   ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25  7:44                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25  8:34                                       ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27  7:59                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27  7:54                                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-29 17:58                                           ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30  7:15                                 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30  8:00                                   ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-04 17:46                                     ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-04 19:05                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05  7:32                                         ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 11:46                                           ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 12:18                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 12:30                                               ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 16:59                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:20                                                   ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 21:18                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 17:59                                             ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:50                                               ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06  7:54                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 14:14                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 17:40                                                     ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:04                                                       ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-06 20:07                                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-07 18:05                                                         ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:19                                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 13:02                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:05                                             ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:54                                               ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2025-01-06 18:02                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:45                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 20:19                                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05  7:37                                       ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 14:40                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 18:10                                           ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06  8:56                                           ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-07 17:56                                             ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:25                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-08  2:27                                                 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 13:40                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:54                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 19:36                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 16:30                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-30 18:59                                     ` Juri Linkov

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