From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hans BKK Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Generating a listing of all symbols (16K+) and labeling subsets Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <86c20aeb-e709-4098-8a44-005c9e5925cd@googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1397834023 17138 80.91.229.3 (18 Apr 2014 15:13:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 15:13:43 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 18 17:13:37 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WbATq-00014U-7T for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 17:13:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38508 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WbATp-0001Kw-Ol for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 11:13:29 -0400 X-Received: by 10.182.28.36 with SMTP id y4mr10523319obg.46.1397832930058; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:55:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.117.138 with SMTP id ke10mr634obb.42.1397832929861; Fri, 18 Apr 2014 07:55:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!c1no129173igq.0!news-out.google.com!gi6ni540igc.0!nntp.google.com!l13no8271914iga.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2602:306:334f:a5e0:34d6:6f1d:10e2:9ffb; posting-account=IUdGewoAAACF9WtA3i8stuVyXNk2FqaH Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 2602:306:334f:a5e0:34d6:6f1d:10e2:9ffb User-Agent: G2/1.0 Injection-Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 14:55:29 +0000 Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:204935 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97200 Archived-At: On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:19:40 AM UTC-4, Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > I'd specifically like to ask about the logic of the > categorizing breakdown and for better taxonomy terms. >=20 >=20 >=20 > It is a category error to categorize Emacs Lisp symbols into >=20 > (single) buckets, unless you wish to defer understanding. :-D I realize there is overlap, hence the duplication of tests for primitive vs= lisp etc within multiple buckets. And within a given cond level, order is = by (my judgement) of priority - commands first, ID as a functions before va= lues, user options before setq ones, etc. This logic flow is exactly what I was looking for feedback on, as well as h= ow to identify more specifically those currently falling into the "t" or "o= ther" buckets - currently over half the symbols are neither functions nor v= ariables nor faces. Too bad apparently predicates don't exist to cover all = possible symbol types. Once I have the "skeleton" to my satisfaction, I plan to output the relevan= t docstrings as well, so when I'm looking at a package's "diff report" ever= ything's in one place.