From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alain Schneble Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] feature/integrated-elpa 4f6df43 15/23: README added Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:28:42 +0200 Message-ID: <86bmyz2tt1.fsf@realize.ch> References: <20160916203414.25203.87032@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <874m582ixv.fsf@russet.org.uk> <871t0apsxm.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shsm7hi6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eucwi2.fsf@gnu.org> <878tudgwlq.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360pgoyo4.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jn3ws9.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8eqoi08.fsf@gnu.org> <87d1jlacsh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <867f9t4n4t.fsf@realize.ch> <874m4x8sq5.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8637kh4j1u.fsf@realize.ch> <87wpht4b1i.fsf@russet.org.uk> <86y4292m2u.fsf@realize.ch> <8737kd8vfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1475648986 3123 195.159.176.226 (5 Oct 2016 06:29:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 06:29:46 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (windows-nt) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Phillip Lord Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 05 08:29:42 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1brfhy-0008EX-5r for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 08:29:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46722 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1brfhw-00070F-N1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:29:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38856) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1brfho-0006zy-QP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1brfhm-0005zg-Sx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:29:27 -0400 Original-Received: from clientmail.realize.ch ([46.140.89.53]:4318) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1brfhf-0005tm-UJ; Wed, 05 Oct 2016 02:29:20 -0400 Original-Received: from rintintin.hq.realize.ch.lan.rit (Unknown [192.168.0.105]) by clientmail.realize.ch with ESMTP ; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:29:04 +0200 Original-Received: from myngb (192.168.250.224) by rintintin.hq.realize.ch.lan.rit (192.168.0.105) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.516.32; Wed, 5 Oct 2016 08:28:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8737kd8vfh.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 03 Oct 2016 13:32:34 +0100") X-ClientProxiedBy: rintintin.hq.realize.ch.lan.rit (192.168.0.105) To rintintin.hq.realize.ch.lan.rit (192.168.0.105) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows NT kernel [generic] X-Received-From: 46.140.89.53 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207989 Archived-At: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: >>> Just for what I say. Having the two package systems in different >>> top-level (or lower-lever) directories makes life easier. Copying files >>> from package.el format locations in core format would be possible but, >>> again, complex. >> >> Yes, there is an extra move files/directories step involved. But I >> think it finally makes the _user's_ life easier ;) > > "user" here means "developer" - it doesn't make any difference for the > end user. For the developer, yes, it's probably easier for those who are > used to the lisp in the core, but harder for those who are used to > package.el format. It was not clear from what I wrote, but I was referring to a user -- whether developer or not -- using a release version of Emacs and that potentially doesn't even want to use package.el to install additional packages. If we stick to the Emacs directory/file layout, it is a unified layout that gets presented to her. Where distictions between core libraries and ELPA core packages aren't visible at that level. That would be worth trying to achieve, I think. (And in fact is how the directory/files organization looks like in the current release, IIUC.) Alain