From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to make emacs stop trying to load /home/sb/.emacs after su to root? Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:30:31 +0200 Message-ID: <86blxywlfs.fsf@dod.no> References: <864l3w18ae.fsf@dod.no> <86bly0xxit.fsf@dod.no> <867e8oxx2q.fsf@dod.no> <3D7E0823-F1A4-4C32-8177-143BF1736B6C@easesoftware.com> <86muhjw7ub.fsf@dod.no> <86ims7vska.fsf@dod.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="128194"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (windows-nt) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 13 07:30:45 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hmAcP-000zIc-Cy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 07:30:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53726 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmAcO-0000dp-Ct for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hmAcK-0000cE-AX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmAcI-0004fg-BK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from cadalora.default.sbang.uk0.bigv.io ([2001:41c9:1:424::90]:38330 helo=cadalora.bang.priv.no) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hmAcH-0004d1-3l for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mccoy (cm-84.212.50.160.getinternet.no [84.212.50.160]) by cadalora.bang.priv.no (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9E392CDF2D for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 06:30:32 +0100 (BST) In-Reply-To: <86ims7vska.fsf@dod.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:41:57 +0200") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2001:41c9:1:424::90 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:122042 >>>>> Steinar Bang : >>>>> Stefan Monnier : >> I can't find any relevant change in Emacs in that timeframe. >> OTOH it seems that the `su` that comes with Debian may have changed > Hm... so I may have been barking up the wrong tree...? However, there is something that I would say actually is a bug, ie. this bit, quoted from an earlier message: >> And the difference is more drastic than it would appear to be, because >> emacs loads the .emacs file in my home directory, and then fails >> miserably because that confif files expects a lot of emacs packages that >> emacs is unable to find (ie. it does not use the packages under the >> original user, ie. ~sb/.emacs.d/elpa/ ). IMO If emacs decides to load the .emacs from a different place, it should also load all user specific config from that place (~/.emacs.d/ .gnus.el whatever). (If emacs had loaded all of its config files from the same place it loaded .emacs, I would never have noticed any breakage and would have happily used my native emacs config as root)