From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akira Kyle Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rethinking the design of xwidgets Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:22:43 -0600 Message-ID: <86blh4bojg.fsf@akirakyle.com> References: <864kmzupp0.fsf@akirakyle.com> <835z7e2ouj.fsf@gnu.org> <86v9fet5sg.fsf@akirakyle.com> <87o8l6geh1.fsf@logand.com> <86h7qxu8ko.fsf@gmail.com> <877drtqn2w.fsf@logand.com> <83mu0ozw8r.fsf@gnu.org> <87tuuwojdg.fsf@logand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32759"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.4.13; emacs 28.0.50 Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Tomas Hlavaty Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 21:26:43 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kSmQ6-0008SR-RI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:26:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59472 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSmQ5-0005CI-RC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:26:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41832) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSmMJ-0000Y4-RS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-il1-f178.google.com ([209.85.166.178]:39497) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kSmMH-0001yQ-Vt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:22:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-il1-f178.google.com with SMTP id q1so624069ilt.6 for ; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:22:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:references:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject :in-reply-to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=OjExeUSXouyL+kQtia3NMIJNtmU+9hmbLHTMm3B8CH4=; b=s0/lpzEJqJaSpy+7J5XU64Yte3mXXXUJ+bjaAcUuthdzayLGgwXflYrtOo4ewAP4ZP OI60t0KyXPw/QDo6/DZwnf/qWKJkuNiZAUyO2CoqzX50StUlctp3U3+XDC0dVyBQEsIk IWgR7YMm2g9kjaiGqdClPG0wCkfyZwm4xbGWeUT8naoenMSvu8QzuGpo4GQp9zOL/CKW MSnYeBzyNc4wjQQpVaPtZ9TVJGcv1uFFe87kzPe3T6b/1XyGUfnTK4QEEZy+1CfBMaD9 T9uG9I+TWNBP+TslM2D+VJZK9BIQYGlZsDW8zopRamSb9r/tj2ibipyht6lxGrM1z5/r Em6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531qC+6h3KR6lxx3uVf1XYPAifCxgmmiMWnTHm3RO0Sulzk/2Il7 oSpO5hfRkJBRPO+b6AnoKP00ZfM1/ALTlyWG X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzunWtP3VJqvWd6SYM1FO0QCcfS/s3ehpyGaZZiBcUIFb07Feomr0Gwxn38z0LlC+/hZHpPdg== X-Received: by 2002:a92:a307:: with SMTP id a7mr519823ili.97.1602703364664; Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from lore ([2601:281:8080:45f0:7f70:5415:b75f:2b9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c66sm323109ilg.46.2020.10.14.12.22.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 14 Oct 2020 12:22:44 -0700 (PDT) In-reply-to: <87tuuwojdg.fsf@logand.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.166.178; envelope-from=aikokyle@gmail.com; helo=mail-il1-f178.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/14 14:07:41 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:257680 Archived-At: On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:35 AM, Tomas Hlavaty wrote: > On Wed 14 Oct 2020 at 18:02, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> That sounds somewhat harsh. Let's try being kinder to people >> who come >> up with ideas for improving Emacs, okay? > > i was simply trying to be as clear as possible. sorry if it > sounded > harsh. it wasn't suppose to be and it is not clear to me why > you think > it sounded harsh. FWIW when a statement is phrased in terms of second person when it can just as readily be phrased in terms of third person or without any use of a pronoun, it can often come across as much more personal.