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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Excessive use of `eassert`
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 20:16:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86bk9b6hks.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d30e62ef-f278-46ec-af2b-6feedfca7a22@cs.ucla.edu> (message from Paul Eggert on Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:15:03 -0800)

> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 00:15:03 -0800
> Cc: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
>  emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
> 
> On 2024-01-22 05:20, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Compared to the patch I proposed this has the downside that it
> > duplicates the logic between `lisp_h_builtin_lisp_symbol` and
> > `make_lisp_symbol`
> Yes, when --enable-checking is used the tradeoff is: would we rather 
> omit all runtime checking in make_lisp_symbol (the patch you proposed), 
> or omit it only for builtin symbols (the patch I installed)?
> 
> For builtin symbols like Qnil and Qt the runtime checking is not all 
> that useful - if these symbols' data items are improperly aligned Emacs 
> will crash early anyway. For non-builtin symbols the runtime checking is 
> arguably useful, to catch (presumably rare) alignment bugs in the memory 
> allocator.
> 
> If you'd rather have the simpler solution that doesn't catch alignment 
> bugs in non-builtin symbols, I could prepare a patch along those lines. 
> Any such alignment bugs are pretty unlikely, after all.

I think we should settle for builtin symbols, since the other kind is
unlikely to cause any significant slowdown, and the extra level of
testing is valuable in debug builds.

I hope Stefan will agree.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-23 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-18 22:35 Excessive use of `eassert` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19  7:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 13:01   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 15:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 15:50       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 16:23         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-19 17:44           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-19 19:42       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-19 19:56         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21  1:41         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21  9:57           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-01-21 20:35             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 10:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-22  5:19             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:07               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22 14:37               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-23  7:51                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 11:42                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-24  1:04                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-24 15:09                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-01-26  8:06                         ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-21 15:54           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-22  4:12             ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-22 13:20               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-23  8:15                 ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 17:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-01-24  7:45                     ` Paul Eggert
2024-01-23 18:16                   ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-01-23 19:50                     ` Stefan Monnier

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