From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master 37889523278: Add new `swap` macro and use it Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 09:19:53 +0200 Message-ID: <86bk979rae.fsf@gnu.org> References: <170452579053.27998.16123231327386305897@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <20240106072311.28B8FC0034E@vcs2.savannah.gnu.org> <87plye9ahs.fsf@yahoo.com> <83o7dyua0d.fsf@gnu.org> <87le9297ei.fsf@yahoo.com> <87cyue92fx.fsf@yahoo.com> <877ckm8uzz.fsf@yahoo.com> <83v886sgtl.fsf@gnu.org> <4719da9bc2bbcffdb634@heytings.org> <87bk9o1ooo.fsf@yahoo.com> <83cyu4fl4o.fsf@gnu.org> <877ckc1gs9.fsf@yahoo.com> <83a5p8fehd.fsf@gnu.org> <83bk9mepkt.fsf@gnu.org> <9245debeed69c26665f0@heytings.org> <834jfbb1pa.fsf@gnu.org> <2f5a5ec4d5e2c3c985a2@heytings.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3651"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 27 08:20:37 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rTczV-0000oM-GS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 08:20:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTcyt-0000AT-Ag; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:19:59 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTcys-0000AK-3y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:19:58 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rTcyr-0007XV-Hk; Sat, 27 Jan 2024 02:19:57 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=Xvogbk3xMZ0V1aUWtFLCdUjg7EwqVPBz2NwcmwnlP9Q=; b=rCHKPdbvTp/6 PBiU8p3G7ANTb04J/IW3RWNHTk2zKhYiNY9JQWxPJGbW+D0SnZU3iKemmeUiqaYQWNQY/oPWPpWyd oOPEk+SJ/vOSTBCeaxm67tbFb4+e4SDjq1N1dGBp0tvce9Q/Hzvx1HeT6Bi25XnleOXwTMa7byxFw FZEY7GKdb8oNBePoOniCP4QuBLlhEWGcGKw24BjlLG6/F3EVBrnS6sArqeZ3UKxRVPnHfrUglsqiF Wc929PbNClYWmhiJm2haHEGViBsV09C6dr1eAXqoS2GDfNeeHW8CRg0o6IRLm0fCJwTsZPsavBlfy 26y96o6HXHUlbxA+ybgdRg==; In-Reply-To: <2f5a5ec4d5e2c3c985a2@heytings.org> (message from Gregory Heytings on Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:25:49 +0000) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315467 Archived-At: > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2024 01:25:49 +0000 > From: Gregory Heytings > cc: luangruo@yahoo.com, stefankangas@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > > > >> FYI, the claim "Sun C 5.8, a C99 compiler that does presently produce > >> working Emacs builds" is pure fantasy, aka fabricated evidence. I had > >> some free time today, I digged in my archives, and found a copy of > >> Solaris 10 and Sun Studio 11, which I installed in a VM. The last > >> Emacs version for which Sun C 5.8 produces a working Emacs build is... > >> Emacs 24. > >> > >> Much ado about nothing. Somehow, I'm not surprised. > > > > Thanks for the information, but please avoid such sarcastic remarks > > which border on ad-hominem, let alone accusations of "fabrication". We > > should be able to have a discussion about technical issues without > > resorting to personal attacks. > > There are no accusations or personal attacks in what I said. You are not objective about this, because it's your post. Please take it from a bystander who is less emotionally involved in that discussion: there's a clear personal attack in the wording you've chosen. > Loudly and repeatedly making, to support one's viewpoint, a > technical claim that proves to be just plain false, and doing that > about a system configuration that is obscure enough that, in all > likelihood, nobody on this list would have access to it, is > precisely that: fabricating evidence out of thin air. Given your command of the English language, I'm sure you could find any number of ways of expressing the same ideas in a less insulting manner. Which is what I'm asking you to do in the future, please, simply because keeping the flames down makes the discussions more productive, if not for reasons of general kindness and politeness. TIA