From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#70071: [FR] Provide official install scripts without requiring root, e.g., by making a static build possible Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:31:15 +0300 Message-ID: <86bk6ubvdo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87frw6yeub.fsf@gmx.de> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3952"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 70071-done@debbugs.gnu.org, michael.albinus@gmx.de To: Rudi C Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 31 11:32:17 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrY0-0000lq-Qn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 11:32:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXl-0001V5-7v; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:32:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXk-0001UI-Cc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXk-0000ha-4e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:32:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXm-0008L2-HP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:32:02 -0400 Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: cc-closed 70071 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Mail-Followup-To: 70071@debbugs.gnu.org, eliz@gnu.org, rudiwillalwaysloveyou@gmail.com Original-Received: via spool by 70071-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D70071.171187749031955 (code D ref 70071); Sun, 31 Mar 2024 09:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 70071-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2024 09:31:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXG-0008JJ-Ay for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:31:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51986) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrXC-0008IQ-8o for 70071-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:31:28 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rqrX4-0000Ys-Aw; Sun, 31 Mar 2024 05:31:18 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=3hyLQ/2YRJWoZB4HEeRJvOSStEfrAd+FMW7Su+l8LTY=; b=dNlNDTrr+gdc 8IuqIsY8c1OyIvHjrhzR6h+ohUTjmWQ5Lv10NfijJf/G8Bxtz0h+UfsYjQm92hlvsnO1abBJm8qvS IaOoyQSXt4YLxhJ9LGVfJ2+cy4ImTHzOfKRQumYxTYq3LfeQCeZuE08FwrZFNmB+7Ru8f8n3p3GR3 y8Ajd/3eKFyZy3b4Ldh+itOn9L/GRfXNRVJgadbwL3/B1mzCPbBOWbxa8oJFyY3R8kYg0ixyyElis jJYo/B4MXP58Yzcr6+LvaA3T/eQ4I8D3rFK59IM+6HnsqpBB5tgpBpTh+oMw/jrq2hPN/vr9et83M uk7IvEfBduwe/bJWIvCfuQ==; In-Reply-To: (message from Rudi C on Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:36:16 +0330) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:282427 Archived-At: > Cc: 70071@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Rudi C > Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2024 12:36:16 +0330 > > I discovered a tool called junest (https://github.com/fsquillace/junest) that appears to work for installing Emacs > without root access. I'm glad you found a solution for you. > Given that many users do not have root access, it is crucial to provide an official, well-documented method for > installing Emacs in such environments. Addressing this issue should take precedence over introducing new > features, as it will significantly improve the user experience and make Emacs more accessible to a wider > audience. As already mentioned, such a method exists and is well-documented: use the --prefix option of the configure script to install Emacs in a directory to which you have access. This is not specific to Emacs, btw: every package that is built using Autoconf-produced configure script and Makefiles accepts the --prefix option to specify where to install it. > In the current state, recommending Emacs to new users can be difficult, as the installation process requires a > considerable amount of Linux knowledge. By streamlining the installation process for non-root users, Emacs > will become more user-friendly and attractive to newcomers. Users who are not knowledgeable enough to install Emacs on their own should use a distro, or ask someone else to help them. > As for what this officially endorsed (and tested) way of installing emacs without root should be, I don't have the > expertise. But perhaps GNU Guix could officially support a non-root mode, as it seems technically possible. Please suggest this to the Guix folks. It is possible they will provide such a feature, if it isn't already provided. I don't know enough about Guix to tell more, sorry. > Alternatively, the Emacs installation documentation could include instructions on using a non-root package > manager like junest, which should be tested to ensure compatibility with Emacs. Sorry, we cannot possibly advertise other packages for these jobs: we don't have the manpower for tracking them and studying them. And with that, I'm closing this bug report, since I think we have already covered everything that is relevant to this issue.