From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Windows 9X without KernelEx Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 10:37:53 +0300 Message-ID: <86bk42wt9q.fsf@gnu.org> References: <875xub8sn8.fsf.ref@yahoo.com> <875xub8sn8.fsf@yahoo.com> <8634pfy289.fsf@gnu.org> <86zfrnwltc.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmmr6i5l.fsf@yahoo.com> <86ikyawv2v.fsf@gnu.org> <87jziq7k7v.fsf@yahoo.com> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37291"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Po Lu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 15 09:38:28 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sINzY-0009Vb-04 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 09:38:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sINz6-0002Hk-0D; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 03:38:00 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sINz2-0002Dk-Vi for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 03:37:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sINz2-0004IT-NM; Sat, 15 Jun 2024 03:37:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=kO5+Hm0Xm5Ylk65rFuaxC9dXls6HJtgouhpYoODk0G8=; b=O7MYGymwgmDT AskMJajIZ6o+M5QeOhkrvoH7UwfcgmPXhjNP0HIVLdpDJ+YDAlIxCjcP4QOiA+OQUteVZUnXGwRM4 FY5r+IjDR7hnobCKrncuU33P6jdPVsS2T7yrNojiUPxpTtgiJPPNwSe2qKDlh0SllytxLSc2k4LDw MtoJvMNYuL2mv+688Gq4JfdHax6trfHM0YGYacOu8q44im7wSq5sn7qUHeOLyOm3MU4fEzWaeLUtM GBwCvfelvttUj7EXqBvrOXoJzJKzBlf95+VA9/csxbv9bOgGmruqLwefn3sewgIUaD+1CB3rSXzxa h7CLmr4RWcOioLTYvQkKMQ==; In-Reply-To: <87jziq7k7v.fsf@yahoo.com> (message from Po Lu on Sat, 15 Jun 2024 15:12:36 +0800) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320108 Archived-At: > From: Po Lu > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2024 15:12:36 +0800 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > Does Emacs refuse to start up on Windows 98 due to USP10.DLL? > > Yes. > > > I just checked, and my old Windows 98 did have USP10.DLL. AFAIR, > > Uniscribe came with IE 5, so I think every Windows system nowadays > > should have it, if it's still being used. > > > > If needed, we can document that Uniscribe is required for Emacs to run > > on Windows 9X. I'd prefer this to complicating the code more than we > > already have. Especially since Uniscribe is supported as a fallback, > > and is likely to be removed at some future point. > > I would be really averse to this solution, because the first two > downloads of this file I tried were flagged as viruses (or were > distributed as installer programs so flagged), and the alternative is > only small number of lines of extra code. Of course, I possess a proper > copy of this file, but that fact is of no assistance to the next person. Let's first hear from such a person, if he/she exists. I don't want to complicate our code, and thus run the risk of introducing bugs, on behalf of a largely imaginary problem, sorry.