From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Disabling mouse input Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 19:40:50 +0200 Message-ID: <86bjyxy1nh.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86sesaytjn.fsf@gnu.org> <4p6cs2adzzqihjdustvlklr3ykrrz7eq7rtz2ciywcyevgmoej@klyfgnsjtnti> <86h68py3zy.fsf@gnu.org> <86fro9y3ki.fsf@gnu.org> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8003"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dradetsky@gmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 18:41:48 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1t7I8C-0001wI-3v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 18:41:48 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7I7S-0006ZH-GF; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:41:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7I7L-0006Ya-7m for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:40:55 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1t7I7J-0003i9-LC; Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:40:54 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=oMIp4LB6VyyemF5NC0X7uqKlbnIHKER3FHi56d2txK8=; b=RY1uZ8lJ01m5 AYKvg740zX1tZ9qNw3ZsTRxoG1k27vmQI9r428tRNkw7SlVmFKfA/O4ZDJBrLL8NreNV6q0aGGXKA 5ksFz6xOgooMZrpgAKIopPqOgNn/8pD/KddVQhlKXRTQrLmtlVc7wswrFvdYz84FNbPMEhySSBuyp 1zq0WEO7eoc6cwpyun3TmXrX9x475ISMjl8RbZ/WRKGmokbRZr9PT6f57AuIHti7dEuT9Ht5FK31k TSRxKuM3MZoxXHlFpt2Rb8VzTmoRuEMpnQVP1RU3gJMOoPzRQwxBZarCPbckw8hbH1PNzqBs4X1ZR Flh8foJJJKnRWxiQY5RSYA==; In-Reply-To: (message from Stefan Monnier on Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:25 -0400) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:325024 Archived-At: > From: Stefan Monnier > Cc: dradetsky@gmail.com, luangruo@yahoo.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2024 13:04:25 -0400 > > >> I think the answer is yes, tho I'm not sure what you mean by "think > >> input events arrived" nor why you seem to think that would be a problem. > > > > I mentioned that in my original comments: stuff like while-no-input > > will think some input arrived, which is not what the users would want, > > when this knob is used. > > IIUC the problematic events tend to occur "in the middle of other > events", because they are generated as a side effect of the hand > movement that causes the other events, so I suspect the effect on > `while-no-input` is not particularly important. I'm not sure I would be happy relying on that, or in general that such events will be seen in the queue, but there's AFAIU a larger problem with this method: it requires users to add a lot of events to the list of events "disabled" via this method. It is also not very future-proof, I think. E.g., what about drag-N, drag-n-drop, etc.? My understanding was that the OP wanted a way of disabling mouse events without the need to go though all the possible symbols Emacs uses for them.