From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: delete-selection-mode Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:34:42 +0200 Message-ID: <86abjmnk4d.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <004a01c8a1a0$7215cdd0$0200a8c0@us.oracle.com> <878wz9btq8.fsf@jurta.org> <85fxthy4qp.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <87hcdxz9zr.fsf_-_@jurta.org> <87ve2cfk9x.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <200804201931.m3KJVO4X008875@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <858wz8ux2w.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BA779.2080507@gmail.com> <853apguv0s.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BAD5C.4090204@gmail.com> <85prskte96.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480BB8C0.4020303@gmail.com> <85abjnu5ss.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <480C31B9.6060900@gmail.com> <480CC3AD.1050403@gmail.com> <480CEF39.8040307@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1208867712 6768 80.91.229.12 (22 Apr 2008 12:35:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: bob@rattlesnake.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 22 14:35:47 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JoHii-000417-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:35:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoHi2-00032b-LL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoHhx-00031g-TM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JoHhu-00030g-UI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:34:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JoHhu-00030a-Lo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:34:46 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JoHhu-0006MU-1j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:34:46 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 26708 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2008 12:34:43 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 22 Apr 2008 12:34:42 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C41A8F854; Tue, 22 Apr 2008 14:34:42 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Robert J. Chassell's message of "Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:20:08 +0000 (UTC)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.0.8; VDF: 7.0.3.196; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:95764 Archived-At: "Robert J. Chassell" writes: > > No, the arrow keys without shift do NOT deactivate the region ... > > I think that depends on how you activate the region ... > > 2) If the region was activated with a shifted arrow key then unshifted > arrow keys deactivates the region. I think this is what users accustomed > to other applications expects. > > No, the arrow keys without shift do NOT deactivate the region; they > deactivate the HIGHLIGHTING for the region. I am not only able to > call `exchange-point-and-mark' (which I invoke with `C-x C-x'), which > tells me the region continues to exist, but the highlighting > reappears. I should think you are wrong here. An existing region and an active region are two different things, in particular when mark-even-if-inactive is t (which it is by default). And C-x C-x reactivates region and mark anyway without complaint. An _active_ region, for example, constrains the scope of M-%. An existing region doesn't. -- David Kastrup