From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Next release Date: Thu, 08 May 2008 11:44:29 +0200 Message-ID: <86abj1qgea.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> References: <18457.37369.262079.668907@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <200805040056.m440u3eS022727@sallyv1.ics.uci.edu> <874p9dn46h.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <4822B82A.6030003@gnu.org> <86zlr1qjq3.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> <4822C648.7050901@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1210239894 20644 80.91.229.12 (8 May 2008 09:44:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 09:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: lekktu@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Jason Rumney To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 08 11:45:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ju2gm-0001kX-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 11:45:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38928 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2g4-0005ue-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:44:40 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2fz-0005uA-5r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:44:35 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2fw-0005th-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=52682 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ju2fw-0005tY-Kb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.quinscape.de ([212.29.44.217]:53694) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ju2fv-0006zC-KM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 08 May 2008 05:44:32 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail-ldap/ctrl 7908 invoked from network); 8 May 2008 09:44:30 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO lola.quinscape.zz) ([10.0.3.43]) (envelope-sender ) by quinx.quinscape.de (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 May 2008 09:44:29 -0000 Original-Received: by lola.quinscape.zz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BFDD58EEBB; Thu, 8 May 2008 11:44:29 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Miles Bader's message of "Thu, 08 May 2008 18:35:38 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-AntiVirus: checked by AntiVir MailGate (version: 2.1.3-2; AVE: 7.8.0.14; VDF: 7.0.4.15; host: quinx) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:96746 Archived-At: Miles Bader writes: > Jason Rumney writes: >> Another problem with it is that it would appear that nothing is >> happening as Emacs is starting. > > Is that really such a problem though? Other apps seem to do that quite > often. GTK+ even has a special "startup notification" thing which gives a visual feedback "something is happening" so that you don't click starter buttons several times. Anyway, until Emacs is mapped, startup messages could appear on stderr. That is no help when started without a terminal, but would be reasonable in many cases, including Emacs in a tty. -- David Kastrup