From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastien Vauban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Finding packages to enable by default Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:11:43 +0200 Organization: Sebastien Vauban Message-ID: <86a991bbg0.fsf@somewhere.org> References: <87ob4fg3zp.fsf@gmail.com> <874mzgdm3d.fsf@mithlond.arda> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403687725 12339 80.91.229.3 (25 Jun 2014 09:15:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 09:15:25 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Wed Jun 25 11:15:10 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjIL-0003DI-55 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:15:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36202 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjIK-0001nt-KJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:15:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59522) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjI8-0001dA-8E for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjHw-0008FE-7S for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:14:56 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44736) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjHw-0008Ep-0j for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 05:14:44 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WzjHq-0002uD-6u for emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:14:38 +0200 Original-Received: from 94-225-65-123.access.telenet.be ([94.225.65.123]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:14:38 +0200 Original-Received: from sva-news by 94-225-65-123.access.telenet.be with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 25 Jun 2014 11:14:38 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 94-225-65-123.access.telenet.be X-Url: Under construction... X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0smRauIirfjpVUaXl3nqhpzCrzM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:172699 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Please, no. I think flyspell is too intrusive to be enabled by default. > > Maybe that's something we should fix, then. But nowadays I consider it > "standard" to do basic spell-checking on-the-fly, in any "text editing > area". I, too, consider that it'd be normal to have Ispelling enabled by default. The only error I have with Flyspell (with Aspell) is that, in French, such a correct sentence: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- Peut-on avoir un tiret entre deux mots ? (May we have a dash between two words?) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- gets underlined at "Peut-on" -- while a dash must be inserted in the interrogation style, when we invert the verb and the subject. Though, I'm quite positive it can be fixed with some Emacs settings, even if I did not find them yet ;-) Best regards, Seb PS- Similarly, I remember that Ispell did not recognize compound words with apostrophes in them (for example, "l'avion" -- the plane)... but that one was solved by switching to Aspell. -- Sebastien Vauban