From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: CVE-2017-14482 - Red Hat Customer Portal Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:17:00 +0200 Message-ID: <86a81i2ogz.fsf@zoho.com> References: <2e991bb7-c570-49ce-be94-3654945bb4b5@mousecar.com> <87d16jxjz6.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <861smzcgx3.fsf@zoho.com> <1b3bec6e-d4d5-37a7-ba54-49bd2d8281bd@yandex.com> <86k20qbcu9.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9q0a8zc.fsf@zoho.com> <87vak8rwcx.fsf@qcore> <867ewnae8k.fsf@zoho.com> <86ing630vd.fsf@zoho.com> <9146e66c-1055-0f61-f290-874e40377a76@yandex.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506392265 24329 195.159.176.226 (26 Sep 2017 02:17:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:17:45 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 26 04:17:40 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfRM-0005ql-5x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:17:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfRR-0004G1-OZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:17:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48062) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfQy-0004Fw-JV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:17:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfQv-0005Vz-Em for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=56269 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfQv-0005Tv-7G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:17:13 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dwfQi-0003RE-JG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:17:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 28 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:x79gI6PG+hzPh6djN8Yu1V8KpSI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:114404 Archived-At: Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Thus it is clear that the mainstream approach > to writing software is failing to delivers > reliable software. That is why we have the > need for an alternative. Among all possible > approaches, *only* formal testing has the > possibility of virtually eliminating > software defects. Utopian revolutionary ideas! But guess what? In 1000 years there will be knives that are sharper, safer, lighter, stiffer (yet flexible where/if it is an advantage), supremely balanced, made in materials that will never rust or corrode, with a blade that will never brake and a handle that is super-ergonomic - still, even the master carpenter on Easter Island will occasionally make an incorrect cut, and once in a blue moon actually cut himself, using this knife! -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573