From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: package: iPhone behavior insert . After a word and twice space Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:21:24 +0100 Message-ID: <86a7z839u3.fsf@zoho.com> References: <87indxf4je.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87fu90aipc.fsf@withouthat.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1511738730 1146 195.159.176.226 (26 Nov 2017 23:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 23:25:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 27 00:25:26 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6Ie-0008L0-Q1 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:25:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58464 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6Im-0003XK-2t for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:25:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52227) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6F5-0000X3-L4 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:21:44 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6F2-0003TJ-Gx for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:21:43 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=40292 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6F2-0003Sw-9W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:21:40 -0500 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJ6Eq-0001YP-Em for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Nov 2017 00:21:28 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:o1nyxzwRbttwW1BkBaUxKJWfFGA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:115114 Archived-At: Hi-Angel wrote: > Yeah, I think the proper solution would be to > make it working rather in an IM, e.g. ibus or > fcitx, or whatever. Not necessarily! To implement this in Emacs only is as much a proper solution. First, it happens that people move their work to Emacs one application at a time until they basically use Emacs all day long. This is natural since they become more comfortable and discover mor and more of it. Second, it isn't wrong to implement the same behavior at different places. Sometimes it isn't possible to do it system-wide and sometimes, even tho it is possible in theory, doing it at two places is much simpler and a quick, well-known fix. An example is precisely the keys. I know how to set them up in Emacs, the Linux VTs (ttys or the console), and in X, and way back, tho I have forgot how I did it, I managed to get Emacs-like cursor movement in zsh. But how do I set them up at one place so they act the same way everywhere? And is that even desirable? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573