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From: Emanuel Berg <moasen@zoho.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Using R-mail in Emacs
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2018 23:42:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <86a7oicu8u.fsf@zoho.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 86efdud83a.fsf@zoho.com

The comment from RMS [1] previously mentioned
was based on a misconception: just before he
said that, it was brought up that few people
use Rmail (or RMAIL), but this was said in the
context of ~"this will make it difficult to
have a lot of people testing it", not to say
Rmail was unimportant because few people were
using it, which was RMS' interpretation.

So maybe the comment of Rmail being the
"primary" mail-reader for Emacs was a stretch,
because he, for the wrong reason, felt the need
to defend it?

BTW that whole thread was discussing the
transition from Babyl to mbox for Rmail, and
how to get it tested before a release!

Anyway here is some more interesting stuff:

Alex Schroeder writes:

    Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:

        I think it needs to be tested at least
        a little before we put it in the trunk.
        I don't know if anyone has actually used
        it yet.

    Our problem is that many people use Gnus
    for their mail. On #emacs, most people
    recommend to use Gnus when newbies ask for
    mail within Emacs. Can we look specifically
    for RMAIL users willing to help us test?
    We could ask on the newsgroups, for
    example. I will ask on #emacs... [2]

A big problem indeed :) Also note the "We could
ask on the newsgroups" ... :)

RMS again:

    The one time I tried to start Gnus (to read
    news), it was so much hassle when starting
    up that I killed it. I recommend use of
    Rmail to read mail. [3]

[1] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00328.html

[2] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00313.html

[3] http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2004-09/msg00363.html

-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-15 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.615.1536613815.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-12 20:10 ` Using R-mail in Emacs Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13  2:39   ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13  8:13     ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-13 14:10       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13 14:34         ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-13 14:53           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.731.1536850436.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14  7:34             ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14  7:50               ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-14 12:27                 ` Gnus and local mirroring (was: Using R-mail in Emacs) Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 18:03                   ` Gnus and local mirroring Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-14 21:15                     ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 23:15                       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-15  2:12                         ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-15 15:54                           ` Eric Abrahamsen
2018-09-14  8:07               ` Using R-mail in Emacs Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-14  9:09                 ` Robert Pluim
2018-09-14 12:11               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.769.1536912467.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14  9:31                 ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14 10:40                   ` Devin Prater
2018-09-14 17:05                     ` Filipp Gunbin
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.773.1536921642.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 11:20                     ` Loris Bennett
2018-09-14 14:58                   ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-14 12:16                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 12:40                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.778.1536928843.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 12:54                     ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 14:05                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-14 15:02                         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-09-14 15:25                           ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.781.1536933989.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 14:38                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 18:35                           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.793.1536950118.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 20:07                             ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15  6:46                               ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.806.1536994011.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-15 14:12                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15 16:43                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-15 21:42                                     ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2018-09-21  0:14                                       ` Bob Proulx
2018-09-21  0:40                                         ` Bob Newell
2018-09-25 23:26                                           ` Bob Proulx
2018-09-27  1:02                                             ` Eric Abrahamsen
     [not found]                                         ` <mailman.1055.1537490409.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 16:06                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 17:58                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.1105.1537552703.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 18:05                                               ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 19:27                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                 ` <mailman.1109.1537558053.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 21:44                                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-22  6:32                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                                     ` <mailman.1123.1537597944.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-22  7:51                                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-21 20:46                                             ` Bob Newell
     [not found]                                             ` <mailman.1110.1537562788.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 21:55                                               ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                                       ` <mailman.1051.1537488901.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-21 15:57                                         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 12:21               ` Stefan Monnier
2018-09-14 14:08                 ` Vegard Vesterheim
     [not found]         ` <mailman.730.1536849270.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 16:03           ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13 16:05         ` Eric S Fraga
     [not found]       ` <mailman.725.1536847871.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 15:52         ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-13  5:26   ` Joost Kremers
2018-09-13  6:33   ` YUE Daian
2018-09-13 13:55     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-13 14:09     ` Martin Šlouf
     [not found]   ` <mailman.711.1536820440.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 13:35     ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found] <mailman.757.1536886463.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-14 10:11 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14 11:59 ` Emanuel Berg
2018-09-14  0:54 Bob Newell
2018-09-14  7:39 ` Robert Pluim
     [not found] <mailman.719.1536839513.1284.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2018-09-13 13:38 ` Emanuel Berg
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-09-13 11:51 Jude DaShiell
2018-09-13 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-10 20:33 Ryan Lloyd
2018-09-11 19:30 ` Bob Newell

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