From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2019 06:44:09 +0200 Message-ID: <86a7ewvdye.fsf@zoho.eu> References: <20190516161408.4dov3dwk5h4yoizn@Ergus> <838sv6cmwt.fsf@gnu.org> <20190516202327.5cgy2s4kppy3ahxa@Ergus> <871s0yqg2i.fsf@telefonica.net> <3210C8E9-7A74-47D6-81A0-470948E6D09C@gmail.com> <87r28xq0j1.fsf@telefonica.net> <20190517055202.ted62gt6hqcip7xt@Ergus> <83mujlbgjh.fsf@gnu.org> <20190517123551.vumasyoyr5bv5voq@Ergus> <835zq9b4vi.fsf@gnu.org> <20190517192429.maibexmwcr56mlky@Ergus> Reply-To: Emanuel Berg Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="43447"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 05 06:44:35 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNms-000BBH-3b for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 06:44:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35265 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNmr-0007ke-3G for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:32852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNmg-0007kN-RL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNmd-0002rB-Sf for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:44:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=47094 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNmd-0002oZ-Kz for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 00:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hYNmb-000Ars-LS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2019 06:44:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:fdovie7GAgTo2hQWINJ+R1oTbqk= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120748 Archived-At: Ergus wrote: > I still don't know any user that uses the > numeric arguments for common commands. Well, now you know one who uses them all the time. I even have several functions I've written myself that do different things, not just numerically, depending on if they receive it or not. > They use C-z and C-S-z for undo-redo. > That's why I asked in other email about case > sensitive bindings. Same for many others. I have M-0 for `undo' and for redo I hit SPC and then do `undo' twice. (Perhaps I should bind a redo to C-0 which I never thought of but apparently has undefined ATM...) > We just need to consider the statistics of > the users who use emacs (including spacemacs) > and what OS they use. Linux for desktop is > sadly a fail Linux (GNU/Linux/X/GNOME|KDE|whatever) as a desktop is a huge success. Nowadays with the smartphones etc the desktop itself may be in trouble but that's another issue. To be honest, I never cared much for it myself, I got enough of it during my Mac Plus "Finder" days, and later WinXP. Emacs and a terminal emulator is much better IMO. > in the short medium time, but the number of > GNU/Linux users keeps growing (very slowly, > but growing). And the most popular > distributions are not the most > fancy-desktop-oriented ones. ? ... ever heard of Ubuntu? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 https://dataswamp.org/~incal