From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unhelpful text in C-h v search-default-mode Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2023 19:40:25 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <86a5prvdm6.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <86frzlv6fy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83zfxt5twt.fsf@gnu.org> <83y1dd5tpt.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15281"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/30.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: acm@muc.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 30 19:09:23 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rJdly-0003re-L5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 19:09:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJdlT-0001bL-Nx; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:51 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJdlP-0001aO-HQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::227]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJdlN-0008Ek-2p; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 13:08:47 -0500 Original-Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E5A2D20003; Sat, 30 Dec 2023 18:08:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83y1dd5tpt.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:54:54 +0200") X-GND-Sasl: juri@linkov.net Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::227; envelope-from=juri@linkov.net; helo=relay7-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314371 Archived-At: >> > 1. M-x list-timers >> > >> > * 0.1s t show-paren-function >> > * 0.5s t # >> > >> > I wonder how users are supposed to know what function it is? >> > Searching by the delay number 0.5 reveals this lambda comes from >> > >> > (setq jit-lock-context-timer >> > (run-with-idle-timer jit-lock-context-time t >> > (lambda () >> > (unless jit-lock--antiblink-grace-timer >> > (jit-lock-context-fontify))))) >> > >> >> What happens with that in a build without native-compilation? does >> what list-timers shows in that case look more friendly? > > Answering my own question: > > 0.2s 0.5s blink-cursor-timer-function > * 0.1s t show-paren-function > * 0.5s :repeat blink-cursor-start > * 0.5s t #f(compiled-function () # > [jit-lock--antiblink-grace-timer jit-lock-context-fontify]) > > So are you saying that # is friendlier > than #? > If so, please explain how is it friendlier. At least it contains symbols like 'jit-lock-context-fontify' that provide a hint what is this function about, and it's possible to grep these symbols. Hopefully Alan could improve the readability of these cryptic names.