From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Undocumented elisp_type_hierarchy.{jpg|txt} in info directory. Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 16:39:56 +0300 Message-ID: <86a5m63903.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86ttkin96b.fsf@163.com> <86wmpe8ymc.fsf@gnu.org> <86y19r3s74.fsf@gnu.org> <87zfu6affb.fsf@gmx.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16030"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: rms@gnu.org, all_but_last@163.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 06 15:41:16 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rt6IF-0003ts-CM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2024 15:41:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rt6HT-0007Hh-VH; Sat, 06 Apr 2024 09:40:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rt6HL-0007HL-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Apr 2024 09:40:23 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rt6HG-0002mM-En; Sat, 06 Apr 2024 09:40:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=lpi1WW0Ccch2N+OWITS/v3m70UxmFkEbbZz0DL8+lM0=; b=WSsVPVVeVHhs hybSa/lkf5OpmKdrawhHciuqxPqfJmt0NkIs8Yl8GFAm0dRETfsHAEAlsgYV7Gnux1k6E1IXu3xxU f73bKtHeqVSqF1L79+T/WuN+MFUjM/FEBZrwky/5+1YE+HYDdEcQw5AZU+YNMIVx7/FWMvk9tDHfG fBue2QL6eP/kA+A7XuNJl9PUDfY3x3HZSX8UP3xZdmSS1qyWM3rPGiXbCbjGe2VRAZx/EtcWk9ie0 xeQpQM2nXSQ0P/ljJaY7cZYTZMvgfhhLlHT1JW1PbV6AHnhM4rLS12cl3RZcM+/xrMMMsMBDlklJ9 GElNUUM1YiG22h2ck4iTHw==; In-Reply-To: <87zfu6affb.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Sat, 06 Apr 2024 13:39:20 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:317571 Archived-At: > From: Stephen Berman > Cc: rms@gnu.org, all_but_last@163.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2024 13:39:20 +0200 > > On Sat, 06 Apr 2024 09:45:19 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > >> From: Richard Stallman > >> Cc: all_but_last@163.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org > >> Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 17:41:19 -0400 > >> > >> > This is incorrect. Info manuals can include images, for those Info > >> > readers which (like Emacs) are capable of displaying images. See the > >> > node "Images" in the Texinfo manual. > >> > >> Do we publish any text about this issue > >> that we should update? > > > > If you mean in files like INSTALL in our distribution, or in some > > other GNU manuals, then no, I don't think we should update anything. > > Should INSTALL say anything about native compilation, e.g. that it > requires libgccjit, which Emacs uses by default if present, otherwise > configure with --with-native-compilation=no to build without it? If so, > then should section 6 under DETAILED BUILDING AND INSTALLATION also > refer to the sibling directory ../native-lisp? > > Beyond these possible updates, it might be helpful to augment section 6 > to point out the following differences between in-tree and out-of-tree > builds (since section 3b refers to building "in a separate directory"): > When executing src/emacs in-place in an out-of-tree build, it uses the > top-level lisp and info directories of the source directory, not of the > build directory, but it uses the lib-src and native-lisp directories of > the build directory. Is this relevant to the issue discussed in this thread? If you want to suggest additions and changes to INSTALL, feel free, but please start a new thread about that. This one is about a very specific aspect of the Emacs installation: image files used by our manuals.