From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71370: 30.0.50; Please un-obsolete buffer-substring as a generalized variable Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 12:45:03 +0300 Message-ID: <86a5jdia5c.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87iky4zedz.fsf@web.de> <545868c6-1a14-4a3f-9939-da2477c0a902@alphapapa.net> <871q4reij4.fsf@web.de> <87le2z7h37.fsf@localhost> <87ed8pnc1w.fsf@web.de> <874j9lo6ll.fsf@localhost> <86zfrdie9a.fsf@gnu.org> <87cyo9id71.fsf@localhost> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32940"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, adam@alphapapa.net, acorallo@gnu.org, 71370@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 22 11:46:23 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxKA-0008MY-6b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 11:46:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJx-0004ik-VW; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:46:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJq-0004W1-Qs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJq-0001Mq-Hl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:46:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJq-0001or-7V for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:46:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71370 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 71370-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71370.17190495216936 (code B ref 71370); Sat, 22 Jun 2024 09:46:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71370) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jun 2024 09:45:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJB-0001no-19 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:45:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:40314) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJ8-0001nY-Ht for 71370@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:45:20 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sKxJ2-0001ED-D0; Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:45:12 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=BZblaYfMhcHi1DcmxQkolcn7IWSsrv6rrbeJ1ZomSpg=; b=Bsd55+/QkYEl 7mPZm/FXsC38G3tK1ws1IULmHEest5C/SZ3IH23B8aGBy6G/TyvfwkxWSNbZnryNELlRE/thjnnLd G56ttebdemPqJx+a0SzqehWK9Ko+NYFSuusrHTG9hxS0tY8SM09TesfwjHSoPqVs/6kaqgPhKtXFC xQwR9cAPWmSF62vtLj+Py/Uoqa/LTz0bNlq0ypG9Jj2u7zLzAH0D8zNHhWIUHbtXZhFe5Y0OlwG9D xOtD4453i3Zg17ii7j8B57j3ptTIclvEj66W0PP/gx4yKiACKoWzfwhkah4xp1+PHqDw+Y2vGMGTu iRjK8hDCgSu6lSKz4ZQxWw==; In-Reply-To: <87cyo9id71.fsf@localhost> (message from Ihor Radchenko on Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:39:14 +0000) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:287684 Archived-At: > From: Ihor Radchenko > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, adam@alphapapa.net, 71370@debbugs.gnu.org, > acorallo@gnu.org > Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2024 08:39:14 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Do note that the original reason of obsoletion was different: > > ... > > Commit log messages are not a legal document, so treating them as if > > they were the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth is not > > TRT. > > I am not saying that commit message is the full truth. > But I did not find any other relevant discussion about > `buffer-substring' on the mailing list. (And commit message did not > contain any reference to such discussion) > > So, I simply used information that was available to me to check > Michaels' claim. > > If you have a link to the discussion leading to obsolete of > `buffer-substring', feel free to share it. I respectfully suggest to consider this discussion as relevant evidence.