From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs ffi Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2024 09:06:52 +0300 Message-ID: <86a5hb65tv.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87a5hi0yts.fsf@valhala.localdomain> <86y152ge0b.fsf@gnu.org> <86jzgjfwqp.fsf@gnu.org> <87sev78arx.fsf@gmail.com> <86le0z89u1.fsf@gnu.org> <87o75v87n1.fsf@gmail.com> <86frr786k7.fsf@gnu.org> <86frr66s0o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23380"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: acorallo@gnu.org, suhailsingh247@gmail.com, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, nicolas@n16f.net, arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Christopher Dimech Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 17 08:07:50 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sfCbO-0005tS-6L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 08:07:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfCaY-0001J4-I8; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 02:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfCaW-0001Ib-Ib for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 02:06:56 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sfCaV-0001yp-9X; Sat, 17 Aug 2024 02:06:55 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=WYqiNoIXHneC8xdJ0qVHSgh+Sepg3WnRU8Wa3qZq820=; b=dsJupioIg1Ectf47T/Hk MwOHj41UCmFKYYN4sXQfJfBDht9511Cru6e7OvzszuKzDKi45uzZk5uBeyt9cH7PG/Dqq2DpxHh7D cb82zYewYA5+qywyaYtGbR1Y49qfDAr4ezgmu7xh0TzMjDA8VFf8+K3DICN3wIgbESostEceT1xcD vKHoKXKh0AuvyRtnASQeI15b+aXlUEaWmp6aiy1DyYxg6UNTFecbWus0oCfF3QZYGFlyNjY8ugEAz 8TrmmMoxsqtYQm2RIFFAiC9JJCd5JpNHYHB66uE1GQFokYCnq1blT8l5qhRphD0CfH+UiD3o0LrHD AAqHvPzjCnYF9w==; In-Reply-To: (message from Christopher Dimech on Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:21:48 +0200) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322821 Archived-At: > From: Christopher Dimech > Cc: suhailsingh247@gmail.com, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, nicolas@n16f.net, > arthur.miller@live.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2024 23:21:48 +0200 > > > But this message does not resonate within the minds of the core emacs maintainers, > with the trend continuing for many years to come. Some believe that everybody > in the world doesn’t get it about free software, and even that everybody in the > world is a crook and that everybody in the world is trying to steal free software > and make bad use of it. I do not approve of such ideas. Many think they know > everything about copyright infringement, but never been thrown out of court on > a motion to dismiss. > > It's always the same, you'll get prima donna maintainers who are at the same > level of priests, who preach a lot about licensing scenarios. But have never > been there, never done it, but preaching a lot about what others can do and what > they cannot do. Too much coercion was surely not what we wanted to apply. For the umpteenth time: the maintainers are not at liberty to change the policies they promised to uphold when they were appointed. If you want to discuss these policies, please take this to the proper place. > As customary I get "Your message was deemed inappropriate by the moderator." > from emacs-devel-owner@gnu.org. I wonder who it is. Actually I wonder why > I wonder. You were asked, several times, to take this subject off this list. What did you expect to happen when you keep ignoring those requests, time and again?