From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
To: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Turning on/off tree-sitter modes
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:36:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <86a5dplxey.fsf@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8b907a41-aa08-4b61-bced-7d4d3fcef4b2@gutov.dev> (message from Dmitry Gutov on Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:26:21 +0200)
> Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2024 18:26:21 +0200
> Cc: johan.myreen@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dmitry@gutov.dev>
>
> > . we need the ability to turn on and off selected TS-based modes,
> > and do it easily
>
> Note that we don't have such capability currently.
We have, sort-of: loading the mode "turns it on" (with known caveats
and disadvantages). In any case, I think we should have this, even if
we don't have it now. It should be part of this improvement.
> Both commands would be pure wrappers on top of the user option, so they
> don't seem to require any advance considerations. Somebody can add those
> later, or any variations on them.
We could indeed make them wrappers, but changing the user option is
not really clean. If nothing else, users will see that the option was
"modified outside Custom", which could be confusing. But if we
conclude that this is the best way, we could avoid this unpleasant
effect as well (AFAIR, it is based on some special property of the
option's symbol).
> > . we should decide how to handle TS-based modes whose non-TS
> > counterparts are available as 3rd-party packages
>
> I think we shouldn't do anything about those - they will continue to use
> the current policy for 3rd party major modes: installing a package adds
> an 'add-to-list' form to autoloads, which runs during
> package-initialize. To disable such a form, the user uninstalls a package.
Maybe. I'd be interested to hear what others think.
> > . we should decide whether we want to modify auto-mode-alist or use
> > major-mode remapping for all the TS-based modes
>
> I see no reason to depart from the current approach - except I've
> switched from major-mode-remap-defaults to major-mode-remap-alist (where
> the former is used) because the latter corresponds to user preferences,
> and it seems like that's the subject of our switcher.
>
> This could also be discussed, but seems more of an orthogonal issue.
Not really orthogonal, since I think Stefan was against changing
auto-mode-alist, because it doesn't handle mode cookies and file-local
variables.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-23 16:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 182+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-06 7:32 An anonymous IRC user's opinion Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-10-06 8:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 8:44 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-06 9:01 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 9:09 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 9:32 ` Abraham S.A.H. via Emacs development discussions.
2024-10-06 11:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-06 13:10 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-06 12:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-09 20:20 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-10 8:57 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 3:30 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-09 6:48 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 20:22 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 11:09 ` Johan Myréen
2024-10-09 13:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 13:38 ` tomas
2024-10-09 16:02 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-09 16:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 21:55 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-10 7:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 9:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-10 10:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 3:29 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-10 6:07 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-10-09 16:06 ` Johan Myréen
2024-10-09 16:12 ` Ship Mints
2024-10-09 16:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-09 21:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-10 4:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 5:14 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-10-10 6:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-10 6:59 ` Xiyue Deng
2024-10-11 20:30 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-12 7:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-12 20:27 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-12 21:00 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-13 4:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 6:28 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-13 4:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 9:37 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-13 10:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-13 15:31 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-13 15:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-14 9:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-14 11:09 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-15 1:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-14 14:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-10-15 1:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-10-15 12:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-03 3:10 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-03 6:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-03 19:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-04 12:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 17:41 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-04 19:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 20:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 17:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 17:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 19:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 19:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 20:59 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 12:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-06 12:46 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 13:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-06 16:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-06 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 2:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-19 15:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 16:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-19 17:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 17:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-19 17:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 17:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-19 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-19 20:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-20 12:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 18:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-20 19:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 19:23 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-20 19:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-20 19:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 5:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 19:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 20:03 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 20:11 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 20:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 20:56 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-22 6:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-22 15:08 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-23 13:24 ` Turning on/off tree-sitter modes (was: An anonymous IRC user's opinion) Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 16:26 ` Turning on/off tree-sitter modes Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-23 16:36 ` Eli Zaretskii [this message]
2024-11-24 2:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-24 13:59 ` Steinar Bang
2024-11-23 17:51 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-23 18:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-23 19:23 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-24 2:21 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-24 15:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-11-24 5:32 ` Commands that change user options? [was: Turning on/off tree-sitter modes] Drew Adams
2024-11-24 10:23 ` Turning on/off tree-sitter modes Stephen Berman
2024-11-24 2:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-24 7:29 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-24 8:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-24 17:29 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-24 18:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-25 0:44 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-25 7:24 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-25 12:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 0:35 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-26 0:40 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-26 14:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 14:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 18:42 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-26 18:45 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-26 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 21:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-26 20:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 20:32 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-27 7:27 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-27 12:36 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-28 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-28 18:50 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-28 19:34 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-28 19:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-29 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-29 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-26 4:54 ` Turning on/off tree-sitter modes (was: An anonymous IRC user's opinion) Richard Stallman
2024-11-26 15:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-29 18:09 ` Turning on/off tree-sitter modes Stefan Monnier via Emacs development discussions.
2024-11-30 3:26 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-30 7:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-30 18:49 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-02 2:04 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-02 2:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-02 12:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-02 12:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 3:30 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 12:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 13:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 14:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 16:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-03 17:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-03 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-04 1:47 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-04 2:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2024-12-04 12:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-04 13:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-30 18:24 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-19 17:59 ` An anonymous IRC user's opinion Juri Linkov
2024-11-19 19:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-20 16:47 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-20 17:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-11-20 18:07 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-05 13:21 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-05 13:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 16:52 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-05 17:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 17:49 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-05 19:23 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-06 0:09 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-06 9:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-11-06 9:59 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-07 14:16 ` Automatic Suggestion of Packages Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-07 16:07 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-07 21:50 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-08 4:15 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 4:29 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 14:02 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-08 15:44 ` Visuwesh
2024-11-08 16:23 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-11-11 20:07 ` Mekeor Melire
2024-11-12 3:00 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-10-13 10:52 ` An anonymous IRC user's opinion Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-10 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2024-10-10 14:45 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2024-10-12 3:19 ` Richard Stallman
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