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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm)
Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: new Emacs maintainer(s)?
Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2007 12:54:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <868xaxjqtw.fsf@lola.quinscape.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87tztlbcs0.fsf@kfs-lx.testafd.dk> (Kim F. Storm's message of "Wed\, 06 Jun 2007 12\:25\:19 +0200")

storm@cua.dk (Kim F. Storm) writes:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
>
> My ideal setup would be:
>
> Emacs 22.x (maintenance): Richard (who can still pull on anyone to
> actually merge/adapt desired fixes from the trunk to the 22.x
> branch).

Funny: that would be pretty much my worst case scenario since Richard
is primarily a manager of people (his intermittent access does not
make much more possible, anyway), and pulling on anyone is going to
detract "anyone" from ongoing work on the trunk.  The admirable
ability to unceremoniously come through with the technical changes
once the direction is clear, is what made me propose Chong: he made
quite a lot of progress even in a zigzag course dictated by changing
opinions and policies.  If he is going to set the policies himself, he
will save himself a few dead ends.

> Emacs 23.1: A committee of Handa [technical lead], Chong [release
> manager], and a third person (e.g. Stefan).

Well, Handa is already the technical lead of unicode-2 and somewhat
biased.  It is clear anyway that he'll be needed to iron out quite a
number of pains in connection with unicode-2, and I would not find it
amiss if there was a somewhat less "partial" person involved with
judging the severity of changes in the API to the general developer
public.  Chong does not make the impression to me of being scared of
complexity.  But I am, and I would like somebody who is conservative
(though not in a destructive way) to counterbalance the unicode-2
leadership.

> Emacs 23.x (maintenance): One of the above (or somebody else ?)

Probably too early to think about that.

> Emacs 24.1: A committee of Eli [technical lead], ? [release
> manager], and a third person (perferably someone with interest in
> BIDI).

What I wrote above for Emacs 23.1 with regard to Handa would apply for
24.1 and Eli similarly.  While it is clear that those are
indispensable for the work in question, I'd prefer having a
counterweight in the project leadership.  This would also make it
possible for them to argue their case without having to be impartial
about it: it would be the job of the respective version leader to
weigh their needs against those of others.

-- 
David Kastrup

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-06 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-04  3:31 Post-22.1 development? Chong Yidong
2007-06-04  6:59 ` Release announcement [was Re: Post-22.1 development?] Glenn Morris
2007-06-04  8:44   ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-04 23:20     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04  9:11   ` Yavor Doganov
2007-06-04  8:58 ` Post-22.1 development? Andreas Schwab
2007-06-04  9:20   ` Ulrich Mueller
2007-06-04  9:24     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-04 19:28       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04  9:25     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-04 19:31       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04 23:20     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 16:44 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 17:31   ` Drew Adams
2007-06-17 21:49     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 18:53   ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? (was: Re: Post-22.1 development?) Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-04 19:34     ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? David Kastrup
2007-06-04 19:37       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-04 19:44         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-04 20:01           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-06-05  5:17     ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? (was: Re: Post-22.1 development?) Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 16:32       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-05 16:39         ` new Emacs maintainer(s)? David Kastrup
2007-06-05 18:39           ` Karl Fogel
2007-06-06  0:21         ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-06  7:56           ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06  8:45             ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06  9:22               ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-06-06 10:25               ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06 10:54                 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-06-06 12:02                   ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-06 12:06                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 13:19                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-06 13:44                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 12:38                   ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-06 15:11                     ` Kim F. Storm
2007-06-06 19:33                       ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-06 12:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-07  5:33             ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07  6:12               ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-04 19:31   ` Post-22.1 development? David Kastrup
2007-06-04 21:18     ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-05  5:17       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 16:10       ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-05 21:35         ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-05 22:33         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06  7:58           ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-06 13:07             ` Johan Bockgård
2007-06-06 13:47               ` David Kastrup
2007-06-07 15:45               ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-07 17:05                 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-07 19:01                   ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-07 17:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-09  9:50                   ` David House
2007-06-06 22:09             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-07 20:25               ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-08 14:27           ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-10 15:59   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-11  9:44     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-11 10:04       ` David Kastrup
2007-06-11 11:25         ` Miles Bader
2007-06-11 17:02         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-11 19:08           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-11 22:23             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2007-06-13  8:07           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-12 16:00         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-12 16:29           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 16:57             ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-12 17:43               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-12 22:09                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-12 23:38                   ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 16:22                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 18:19                       ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 19:15                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 18:44                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 19:22                       ` Chong Yidong
2007-06-13 19:47                         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-13 20:08                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-14  6:11                         ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14  6:18                           ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14  6:57                             ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14  7:33                               ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14  8:08                                 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-14  8:39                                   ` David Kastrup
2007-06-14  9:22                                     ` Miles Bader
2007-06-13  0:09                   ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 16:22                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 17:39                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-13 16:21                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-13 20:57                     ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-13 22:17                       ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-15  6:09                         ` Michael Albinus
2007-06-15 14:02                           ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-14  7:49               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-14  8:57                 ` David Kastrup
2007-06-15  8:48                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-15  9:02                     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-16 18:51                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-04 19:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-05  5:17   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05  6:17     ` David Kastrup
2007-06-05 19:17       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 20:52         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 16:59           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 19:54       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-06-05 21:13         ` David Kastrup
2007-06-06 16:59           ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 21:10             ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07  6:51               ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07  6:57                 ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07  8:21                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07  9:04                     ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08 14:23                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 18:06                       ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-07 18:33                 ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-07 18:53                   ` David House
2007-06-07 18:47                     ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-08  5:54                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08  7:17                     ` IPP under emacs [was: Re: Post-22.1 development?] Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 14:25                       ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-08 18:37                         ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 20:20                           ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-08 20:59                             ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 21:16                               ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-08 21:40                                 ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 21:43                                   ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-09  1:41                                     ` Ken Raeburn
2007-06-09  9:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-10  3:47                           ` Vinicius Jose Latorre
2007-06-10  7:11                             ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-10 13:18                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 17:49                   ` Post-22.1 development? Ken Raeburn
2007-06-08 18:41                     ` Andreas Schwab
2007-06-08 20:12                     ` Tom Tromey
2007-06-08 14:23                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 18:01                   ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08 19:20                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-06-08 22:25                       ` desktop.el/session.el [was: Post-22.1 development?] Davis Herring
2007-06-08 23:06                         ` desktop.el/session.el Stefan Monnier
2007-06-09 21:32                         ` desktop.el/session.el Juri Linkov
2007-06-09 20:24                     ` Post-22.1 development? Richard Stallman
2007-06-10  7:23                       ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-09 20:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08  7:11               ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08  9:01                 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07 19:48             ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 21:18               ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-07 22:17                 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 22:53                   ` Miles Bader
2007-06-07 23:58                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-07 23:06                     ` 48 line console [was Re: Post-22.1 development]? Nick Roberts
2007-06-08  0:03                       ` 48 line console Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08  1:34                         ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08  7:19                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08  8:59                             ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-08  9:50                               ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2007-06-08 10:40                       ` 48 line console [was Re: Post-22.1 development]? Alan Mackenzie
2007-06-07 22:25               ` Post-22.1 development? David Reitter
2007-06-07 22:42                 ` Sean O'Rourke
2007-06-07 22:53                   ` David Reitter
2007-06-08 13:57                     ` Mathias Dahl
2007-06-08 14:24                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-08 17:23                       ` csant
2007-06-08 19:17                         ` Jan Djärv
2007-06-08  1:23                 ` YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
2007-06-05 10:24 ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-05 10:55   ` David Kastrup
2007-06-05 11:19   ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-05 21:07     ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-06  0:37       ` Kenichi Handa
2007-06-05 19:17   ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 19:55     ` Jason Rumney
2007-06-06 16:58       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-05 21:22     ` Nick Roberts
2007-06-06 16:59       ` Richard Stallman
2007-06-06 15:28 ` Neal Becker
2007-06-06 15:32   ` David House
2007-06-12 18:39 ` Jay Belanger

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