From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71370: 30.0.50; Please un-obsolete buffer-substring as a generalized variable Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 17:58:20 +0300 Message-ID: <868qzjjv1v.fsf@gnu.org> References: <86jzj3k3nd.fsf@gnu.org> <2dd5d406-3185-4484-8aa8-856e5d717d48@alphapapa.net> Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27490"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 71370@debbugs.gnu.org To: Adam Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 05 16:59:10 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6X-0006un-LJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 16:59:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6D-0001yO-Tl; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6C-0001tY-K9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6C-0008Ed-AV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6P-0002Oy-T1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2024 14:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71370 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 71370-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71370.17175995279192 (code B ref 71370); Wed, 05 Jun 2024 14:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71370) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jun 2024 14:58:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs6B-0002OC-FR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41102) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs69-0002No-DV for 71370@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sEs5p-0008CP-9y; Wed, 05 Jun 2024 10:58:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=NJNhlichLrsrxq4ZR0lwpUIEdx1tdlLj5K64ahVTBYQ=; b=WL+7wl7u+g/X YKHLQC8ktkGwfYWiAYZ4JI8eEJ+/7vucJdkPOH6yz2ZiWu1z/bWtGOqbUUjo2FgYVFl/vI+Htzj1e u7zHuwe+gS9zmtULMr7rmJnZzAF3W38+F+XJnZVgyStf9yXBVa0VUcu1lDNV9VUEfZ+qK2slGd8pD qGQqQxKT08D/yE93hDqv4cSUI5mBYSaB6ObLd17f7cSKS/UviE4h8HIdbXunc0AJ+lb3moWwVQZMs CY6U1CIBFI0izk0O0GB9zWnX5e1Zn3emqA+l9yz1P4m8Hwt5X4w6+g0WzC3+soFoVPqa1lAiyiM1n 2hhNS03MPJ0ukovwn2mpdw==; In-Reply-To: <2dd5d406-3185-4484-8aa8-856e5d717d48@alphapapa.net> (message from Adam Porter on Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:16:53 -0500) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:286611 Archived-At: > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2024 09:16:53 -0500 > Cc: 71370@debbugs.gnu.org > From: Adam Porter > > > I think it's too late to do this now, not without a very good > > reason. Unless such a good reason emerges VSN, this will need to wait > > till Emacs 31 at least. > > That would mean years more of unnecessary compilation warnings' annoying > users when they install packages that use this form. Please also look at this from where I stand: if we keep adding last-minute changes that no one tried for long enough time, we will never start the Emacs 30 release cycle, because doing that with an unstable master branch is a very bad idea, and delaying the branch is the only way of knowing whether the master branch is okay after each change. So I must draw the line in the sand at some point (pun intended), and I just did, a few weeks ago.